Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6

Eric Tykwinski eric-list at
Fri Jan 18 00:44:40 UTC 2013

I'll agree there, as developers have built in some tricks to work around NAT issues.  But in reality doing away with NAT is a much better alternative for the long haul.  So you are both right, but I'll side with Owen when doing network deployments as to ease my future headaches.

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On Jan 17, 2013, at 7:30 PM, Jeff Kell <jeff-kell at> wrote:

> On 1/17/2013 6:50 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> Vonage will, in most cases fail through CGN as will Skype, Xbox-360,
>> and many of the other IM clients.
> Not sure about Vonage, but Skype, Xbox, and just about everything else
> imaginable (other than hosting a server) works just fine over NAT with
> default-deny inbound here, and we have several thousand students in the
> dorms that bang the heck out of those services.  Most applications have
> adapted to the SOHO NATing router that is prevalent today on broadband
> internet.  And if it didn't work, believe me, I'd hear about it :)
> Jeff

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