[SHAME] Spam Rats
jared at puck.nether.net
Thu Jan 10 15:25:53 UTC 2013
On Jan 10, 2013, at 10:17 AM, "Jima" <nanog at jima.tk> wrote:
> On Thu, January 10, 2013 7:53 am, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
>> As for v6 how popular do you see it getting for mail?
> Are you implying that when the internet otherwise moves on to IPv6, we'll
> still inexplicably use IPv4 for mail?
IMHO mail is one of the easiest "first things" to turn on for IPv6. Nobody is going to really notice a 1s delay if they connect() and you're not listening on IPv6 but are on IPv4.
There are concerns from the spam/blacklist communities that IPv6 will make it too hard to roll-up spam information, so many enterprises will likely stick to IPv4 along the long-tail of deployment as it will nearly always work.
I also see lots of people with 2002: address in my mail-log relying on 6to4 gateways, e.g.:
puck:~$ host doors.huapi.net.ar
doors.huapi.net.ar has address 220.127.116.11
doors.huapi.net.ar has address 18.104.22.168
doors.huapi.net.ar has IPv6 address 2002:be88:b1de::1
puck:~$ host warner.fm
warner.fm has address 22.214.171.124
warner.fm has IPv6 address 2002:423b:6d88::1
warner.fm mail is handled by 10 argo.pyxos.net.
puck:~$ host x25.se.
x25.se has address 126.96.36.199
x25.se has IPv6 address 2002:53e3:bef8::1
x25.se mail is handled by 1 x25.se.
I suspect folks will run these sorts of gateways for some time..
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