Will wholesale-only muni actually bring the boys to your yard?

Thu Feb 7 10:38:31 UTC 2013

On 03/02/13 05:55, Frank Bulk wrote:
> Yes, but IP TV is not profitable on stand-alone basis -- it's just a
> necessary part of the triple play.  A lot of the discussion has been about
> Internet and network design, but not much about the other two "plays".

I've certainly heard FTTH deployers mention that RFoG was important 
because of the impact on take-rates, which are typically the key 
variable in the economics. A lot of people have installed gear and 
subscribed channels and even internal co-ax, and it's helpful if they 
can plug it in the "telly port" and the football justworks on all three TVs.

>
> Frank
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brandon Ross [mailto:bross at pobox.com]
> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 3:53 PM
> To: Jay Ashworth
> Cc: NANOG
> Subject: Re: Will wholesale-only muni actually bring the boys to your yard?
>
> On Sat, 2 Feb 2013, Jay Ashworth wrote:
>
>>> Perhaps I live in a different world, but just about all of the small to
>>> midsize service providers I work with offer triple play today, and nearly
>>> all of them are migrating their triple play services to IP.
>> Really.  Citations?  I'd love to see it play that way, myself.
> Okay:
>
> South Central Rural Telephone
> Glasgow, KY
> http://www.scrtc.com/
> Left side of page, "Digital TV service".  See this news article:
>
> http://www.wcluradio.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=15567:
> capacity-crowd-hears-good-report-at-scrtc-annuan-mee
>
> "He also reported that SCRTC is continuing to upgrade our services,
> converting customers to the new IPTV service and trying to get as much
> fiber optic cable built as possible."
>
> Camellia Communications
> Greenville, AL
> http://camelliacom.com/services/ctv-dvr.html
> Note the models of set-top boxes they are using are IP based
>
> Griswold Cooperative Telephone
> Griswold, IA
> http://www.griswoldtelco.com/griswold-coop-iptv-video
>
> Farmer's Mutual Coopeative Telephone
> Moulton, IA
> http://farmersmutualcoop.com/
>
> Citizens
> Floyd, VA
> http://www.citizens.coop/
>
>
> How about a Canadian example you say?
>
> CoopTel
> Valcourt, QB
> http://www.cooptel.qc.ca/en-residentiel-tele-guidesusager.php
> Check out the models of set-top boxes here too.
>
> Oh, also, have you heard of ATT U-Verse?
>
> http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=4800&cdvn=news&newsarticleid=26580
>
> "AT&T U-verse TV is the only 100 percent Internet Protocol-based
> television (IPTV) service offered by a national service provider"
>
> So even the likes of AT&T, in this scheme, could buy fiber paths to their
> subs and provide TV service.  I'm pretty sure AT&T knows how to deliver
> voice services over IP as well.
>
> Do you want more examples?  I bet I can come up with 50 small/regional
> telecom companies that are providing TV services over IP in North America
> if I put my mind to it.
>