NSA able to compromise Cisco, Juniper, Huawei switches

Jonathan Greenwood II gwood83 at gmail.com
Tue Dec 31 19:34:02 UTC 2013

The best response I've seen to all this hype and I completely agree with

"Do ya think that you wouldn't also notice a drastic increase in outbound
traffic to begin with?  It's fun to watch all the hype and things like
that, but to truly sit down and think about what it would actually take
to make something like this happen, especially on a sustained and
"unnoticed" basis, is just asinine.

Perhaps more work should be spent maintaining ones own equipment and
network than debating the chances that the sky may actually be falling or
the NSA hunting your ass down.  ;)   Just my two cents for the day!
Happy New Year!

Scott Morris, CCIEx4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, CCDE

CCNP-Data Center, CCNP-Voice, JNCIE-SP #153, JNCIE-ENT #102, JNCIS-QFX,
CISSP, et al.

IPv6 Gold Certified Engineer, IPv6 Gold Certified Trainer


swm at emanon.com

Knowledge is power.

Power corrupts.

Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......"


On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Warren Bailey <
wbailey at satelliteintelligencegroup.com> wrote:

> +1
> NSA states very clearly this is baked in and ³widely deployed². Either
> Cisco is not very happy with their government overlords today, or they are
> having long meetings at those oversized conference tables trying to figure
> out what to tell everyone. I¹m curious about the implications to the US
> DoD STIG¹s that are put out, as I¹m fairly sure they do not mention there
> is a backdoor that anyone who knows how to knock can access.
> My other question is.. How are they identifying unique ASA and PIX? Is
> there a fingerprint mechanism that tells it what¹s going on? I¹d think
> there would be quite a few admins out there with really weird syslog
> entries??
> Randy is right here.. Cisco has some Œsplainin to do - we buy these
> devices as ³security appliances², not NSA rootkit gateways. I hope the .cn
> guys don¹t figure out what¹s going on here, I¹d imagine there are plenty
> of ASA¹s in the .gov infrastructures.
> //warren
> PS - I mentioned .cn specifically because of the Huawei aspect, in
> addition to the fact that it has been widely publicized we are in a ³cyber
> war² with them.
> On 12/31/13, 12:07 PM, "Randy Bush" <randy at psg.com> wrote:
> >> There's a limit to what can reasonably be called a *product*
> >> vulnerability.
> >
> >right.  if the product was wearing a low-cut blouse and a short skirt,
> >it's not.
> >
> >it's weasel words (excuse the idiom).  shoveling kitty litter over a big
> >steaming pile.
> >
> >let me insert a second advert for jake's 30c3 preso,
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0w36GAyZIA
> >
> >randy
> >

Jonathan Greenwood II
CCIE #22744

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