[SPAM]RE: [SPAM]RE: Mikrotik Cloud Core Router and BGP real life experiences?

Tue Dec 31 16:33:34 UTC 2013

	The biggest problem with Mikrotik is you just can¹t call them up for
support on buggy code. In a critical network this can be a major problem.

	Justin
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MTIN Consulting
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-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Rumph <dale.rumph at gmail.com>
Date: Friday, December 27, 2013 at 10:04 AM
To: Dennis Burgess <dmburgess at linktechs.net>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog at nanog.org>
Subject: Re: [SPAM]RE: [SPAM]RE: Mikrotik Cloud Core Router and BGP real
life experiences?

>Out of all the network hardware I have worked on in operations these were
>by far some of the worst. I read lots of good things but like most things
>in life these just dont stack up against a Cisco or Juniper for stability
>and reliability. Most of the ISP's I have worked with were HSD but i also
>followed the progression path in the industry so i have time with Dial Up,
>ADSL/X/...,WISP's, Data Centers etc. and FTTH
>
>I generally only see these in WISP's and some DSL installs. Never anything
>with huge traffic load and full tables. Generally always driven by the
>cost
>factor alone without regard to much else imho. But that's just my
>experience. However maybe there are people that have managed to keep these
>up and handle all you have requested.
>
>just my 2c
>
>
>On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Dennis Burgess
><dmburgess at linktechs.net>wrote:
>
>> We have many with full routing tables.  Load balancing, works fine, I
>>have
>> one site with 8 DSL lines doing balancing across them.   We typically
>>don't
>> use a GRE tunnel, but OpenVPN or IPSEC work great.
>>
>>
>> Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Author of "Learn RouterOS-
>> Second Edition"
>>  Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support
>> Services
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: matt kelly [mailto:mjkelly at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 8:41 AM
>> To: Raymond Burkholder
>> Cc: NANOG list
>> Subject: [SPAM]RE: Mikrotik Cloud Core Router and BGP real life
>> experiences?
>>
>> They can not handle a full routing table. The load balancing doesn't
>>work.
>> They can not properly reassemble fragmented packets, and therefore drop
>> all but the first "piece". They can not reliably handle traffic loads
>>over
>> maybe 200 Mbps, we needed 4-6 Gbps capacity. They can not hold a gre
>>tunnel
>> connection.
>>
>> On Dec 27, 2013 9:07 AM, "Raymond Burkholder" <ray at oneunified.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > >My real world experience with these is that they suck. Plain and
>>simple.
>> > >Don't waste your time.
>> >
>> > Would you mind elaborating what you were trying to accomplish and what
>> > failed?
>> >
>> > Thank you.
>> >
>> > Ray
>> >
>> >
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