[nznog] Web Servers: Dual-homing or DNAT/Port Forwarding?

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Thu Dec 12 02:19:18 UTC 2013

On Dec 11, 2013 5:45 PM, "Larry Sheldon" <LarrySheldon at cox.net> wrote:
> On 12/11/2013 9:21 AM, Tim Franklin wrote:
>>> Just because something is public doesn¹t mean you have to accept
>>> ALL traffic, it just means you have to anticipate any potential
>>> problems based on Larry knowing your address rather than imagining
>>> him standing at the front gate of your gated community. ;) (let¹s
>>> torture that analogy!)
>> There's still a gated community?  I thought that particular piece of
>> routing joy was long gone...
>> Sorry, I'll get my coat. Tim.
> I'm not sure that was an analogy--it was exploring the exact meanings of
two words.
> In any case, I submit that an address behind a gate is not a "public
> But my point is, my address is in fact public, not behind any
gates--displayed once on the post that supports the mail box, again inside
the mailbox door for the mail person, and on a sign on the house next to
the door.
> Which public display grants to no one any right of access to the interior
of my house (indeed to no part of the property save the path from the
street to the front door).
> Similarly, my IP address could be publicly visible but that does not
grant any right of access to the equipment it attaches to.
> (I might leave my front door wide open--that STILL does not grant any
RIGHT of access.  It does depend on archaic notions of honest and regard
for rights to keep people out.)
> I'm done.

It's maybe better to think of an ip address as a phone number. Most people
get a better experience if they can make and receive calls.

Your line of thinking is that you would only like to make outbound phone
calls. That's cool, for you.

The rest of us will be playing xbox online, which explicitly recommends
unsolicited inbound connections, meaning your result will be better if you
do not statefully firewall and allow xbox to form arbitrary meshes of ipsec



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