Any computer, anywhere?

David Hiers hiersd at
Sun Dec 8 18:05:01 UTC 2013

So what?  Just another day in the cyber battlespace, friends.


On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 6:50 AM, Phil Bedard <bedard.phil at> wrote:

> Have you ever heard of Java and Flash? There is a reason why browsers
> explicitly disable Java, heck OSX removed it from the OS completely.
> Flash will run sandboxed in newer browsers but Java afaik cannot.
> Almost all malware is delivered using them, one research company I read
> about has lists of non-public Java exploits they sell to governments...
> Phil From: Warren Bailey
> Sent: 12/8/2013 3:26
> To: nanog at
> Subject: Any computer, anywhere?
> Noticed this tonight.. Not saying the WP is always on target, but what
> software could be installed via a browser on any computer to gather
> all of that data? And how would it be done without the OS speaking up
> about it? Far fetched.. Or do the Firefox / chrome guys have some
> 'splainin to do?
> Sent from my Mobile Device.

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