Re: Someone’s Been Siphoning Data Through a Huge Security Hole in the Internet

Christopher Morrow morrowc.lists at
Fri Dec 6 19:49:12 UTC 2013

On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Jared Mauch <jared at> wrote:
> On Dec 6, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Brandon Galbraith <brandon.galbraith at> wrote:
>> If your flows are a target, or your data is of an extremely sensitive
>> nature (diplomatic, etc), why aren't you moving those bits over
>> something more private than IP (point to point L2, MPLS)? This doesn't
>> work for the VoIP target mentioned, but foreign ministries should most
>> definitely not be trusting encryption alone.
> I will ruin someones weekend here, but:
> MPLS != Encryption.  MPLS VPN = "Stick a label before the still unencrypted IP packet".

great, now how do I get a private link?

> MPLS doesn't secure your data, you are responsible for keeping it secure on the wire.

but, but,but! they told me it was private!

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