Andros Island Connectivity?

Tue Apr 30 23:27:33 UTC 2013

Now we are partying! Let me get on my computer so I can respond.

Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device

-------- Original message --------
From: Ryan Wilkins <ryan at deadfrog.net>
Date: 04/30/2013 3:16 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: Mike Hale <eyeronic.design at gmail.com>
Cc: Warren Bailey <wbailey at satelliteintelligencegroup.com>,"Aaron C. de Bruyn" <aaron at heyaaron.com>,members at wispa.org,NANOG mailing list <nanog at nanog.org>
Subject: Re: Andros Island Connectivity?

If you need more than a megabit, don't forget to factor in the link budget and the resulting power and hardware requirements to support larger bandwidths.  Then you're looking at something that is probably not available today on the island.  If the connection needs to be up 24/7, even in heavy rains, then you're looking at something in C-band which then requires a larger antenna.  You'll be hard pressed to do any real bandwidth at Ku-band with anything less than a 1.2m antenna.  C-band, you're looking at 3.7m or so minimum.

The Ku-band iDirect system I manage for the City of Chicago runs 3 Mbps up and 3 Mbps down at Ku-band.  There are 6 remotes on the system, 5 are vehicles.  The vehicle antennas are 1.2m but they require 25 Watt amplifiers to reliably close the link all the time.  Clear day is fine on much less power.  Heavy rains, forget it.  25 Watts isn't enough.

On Apr 30, 2013, at 5:24 PM, Mike Hale <eyeronic.design at gmail.com> wrote:

> Bingo.  And you're absolutely right in that setting it up can be really fast.
>
> But cheap?  Not for a quality connection.
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Warren Bailey
> <wbailey at satelliteintelligencegroup.com> wrote:
>> Depends.. Space segment runs from 1300 a mhz for inclined all the way to 6k
>> a month a mhz for hard to get weird stuff. We oversub to make the economics
>> work often.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Mike Hale <eyeronic.design at gmail.com>
>> Date: 04/30/2013 2:22 PM (GMT-08:00)
>> To: Warren Bailey <wbailey at satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
>> Cc: Mike Lyon <mike.lyon at gmail.com>,"Aaron C. de Bruyn"
>> <aaron at heyaaron.com>,members at wispa.org,NANOG mailing list <nanog at nanog.org>
>> Subject: Re: Andros Island Connectivity?
>>
>>
>> Yeah, how many thousands is it per meg of space segment?
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Warren Bailey
>> <wbailey at satelliteintelligencegroup.com> wrote:
>>> Says.. Who?
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Mike Hale <eyeronic.design at gmail.com>
>>> Date: 04/30/2013 2:19 PM (GMT-08:00)
>>> To: Warren Bailey <wbailey at satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
>>> Cc: Mike Lyon <mike.lyon at gmail.com>,"Aaron C. de Bruyn"
>>> <aaron at heyaaron.com>,members at wispa.org,NANOG mailing list
>>> <nanog at nanog.org>
>>> Subject: Re: Andros Island Connectivity?
>>>
>>>
>>> It's the quickest but certainly not the cheapest.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Warren Bailey
>>> <wbailey at satelliteintelligencegroup.com> wrote:
>>>> I suggested VSAT. Probably the quickest and cheapest.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>> From: Mike Lyon <mike.lyon at gmail.com>
>>>> Date: 04/30/2013 1:35 PM (GMT-08:00)
>>>> To: "Aaron C. de Bruyn" <aaron at heyaaron.com>,members at wispa.org
>>>> Cc: NANOG mailing list <nanog at nanog.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: Andros Island Connectivity?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Aaron,
>>>>
>>>> Cross-posting this over to the WISPA list to see if there are any
>>>> Wireless
>>>> ISPs over there that can help you.
>>>>
>>>> -Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Aaron C. de Bruyn
>>>> <aaron at heyaaron.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just had a client drop an interesting requirement on me.
>>>>>
>>>>> They are on Andros Island (Bahamas) for about a year.  I'm working on
>>>>> getting an exact address from the adminisphere above me, but all I've
>>>>> been
>>>>> told so far is they are 'near the naval base'.
>>>>>
>>>>> They just called and said "We need internet access yesterday".
>>>>>
>>>>> None of the people on-site are technical, and all their data is accessed
>>>>> via RDP on a server in the United States.
>>>>>
>>>>> Having never been there, I have no idea if it's like downtown San
>>>>> Francisco
>>>>> where the internet grows on trees, or if it's like the Sahara desert
>>>>> which
>>>>> might require dragging your own fiber in on camelback...
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone have pointers on who to talk to or how I can get them
>>>>> internet
>>>>> access?
>>>>>
>>>>> -A
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> 408-621-4826
>>>> mike.lyon at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon
>>>>
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