guys & dolls (a film motif)

Andrew D Kirch trelane at
Fri Sep 28 03:24:35 UTC 2012

I didn't think any of this should be discussed here, but I'm sick and 
tired of entitled whiners griping about some word that offends them.  
This still is not a real problem, and ALL of my points still apply.


On 9/27/2012 4:59 PM, bmanning at wrote:
>   thank you for your kind words and attempts to educate.  clearly these items are
>   critical for North American Network Operations (NANOG) and should be widely promoted
>   and discussed ...  But NOT, I think, here.
>   may i humbly suggest that there exist other, better fora for discussion of these specific
>   issues and ways/means to address them;
>   Aleviating HUNGER
>   Global Peace - where none take offense
>   Exploitation of the helpless
>   Definition of rights, both human and non-human.
>   I would like to point you here:  which actually has the charter
>   to work on the issues that are so pressing in your mind.
>   Can we kill this thread (oh dear, i'm advocating violence again...) and get back to Network
>   Operations?  Please?
> /bill
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 04:47:16PM -0400, Andrew D Kirch wrote:
>> This isn't a real issue.  HUNGER is a real issue.  WAR is a real issue.
>> 12 year old girls being sold for $20 into SLAVERY in India is a real
>> issue.  TERRORist attacks on embassies are real issues. Expansion of
>> POLICE power is a real issue.   Erosion of human and civil RIGHTS are
>> real issues.  This is window dressing.  I've highlighted the important
>> words for you, and for emphasis, because obviously you don't get it.
>> Andrew
>> On 9/27/2012 4:36 PM, bmanning at wrote:
>>> i -think- the term we are looking for is:   Troglodyte
>>> 1: 	
>>> A person considered to be reclusive, reactionary, out of date, or brutish.
>>> /bill  (top posting like a civilized human...)
>>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 01:28:04PM -0700, Ray Van Dolson wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 02:57:36PM -0400, Andrew D Kirch wrote:
>>>>> I really wish people would get over themselves and get to work.
>>>>> Work is a place where things get done, not where people piss and
>>>>> moan about every single perceived slight they can come up with.
>>>>> Andrew
>>>> I only wish you had used 'guys' instead of 'people' :)
>>>> Ray

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