Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity)

Thu Mar 22 15:05:02 UTC 2012

I'm all for VZ being able to reclaim it as long as they open their fiber
which I don't see happening unless its by force via government. At the end
of the day there needs to be the ability to allow competitors in so of
course they shouldnt be allowed to rip out the regulated part and replace
it with a unregulated one.

Also, I think Z doesnt see any problem at the moment because they probably
make more money with the closed fiber network than they ever would shutting
down/recycling copper

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Jimmy Hess <mysidia at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:28 PM, John T. Yocum
> <john.yocum at fluidhosting.com> wrote:
> > VZ wants to get rid of their copper plant. It's expensive to maintain,
> and
>
> As opposed to fiber plant which is indestructible and cheap to maintain?
>
>
> Well, if VZ owns the copper, if it's not being used to provide a
> service, and the price of
> copper keeps going up,  it's only a matter of time before VZ should
> want to take their bits of unused cable back.   How useful is leaving
> a dormant loop in place just because someone might theoretically want
> it someday?
>
> Seems like a waste for VZ not to reclaim it  so it can be recycled/put
> to good use.
>
> > it requires that they sell service to competitors. Once they've
> disconnected
> > their customers from it, they can just eliminate the copper plant. POTS
>
> You sure the regulations won't eventually be updated to apply some
> rules to whatever POTS is being replaced with?     Possibly years
> before they could finish eliminating their copper plant,  which
> doesn't
> likely happen until the pricing allows POTS  customers  to get FiOS
> delivery installed for free as a
> cheaper alternative to POTS delivery.
>
>
> --
> -JH
>
>