Request to lease IP space, or things that make you want to go hmmmmm..

Fri Mar 9 16:01:34 UTC 2012

-----Original Message-----
From: George Michaelson [mailto:ggm at apnic.net] 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:06 PM
To: NANOG
Subject: Re: Request to lease IP space, or things that make you want to go
hmmmmm..

no. you misunderstand.

The value proposition is not spam: that works with unallocated space.

The value proposition is gaming google page rank, by using widely spread and
legitimately routed IPs to force your paying customers page rank high, by
hits and references. This is a very high value business: one customer paying
you big bucks, to have their web high in google pagerank. Not attacking a
million mailboxes.

In this model, the 'target' is google. The IPS need to come from classic,
widespread IPs because google now count the source IP and can tell if you
use a virtually hosted single IP to try and do this.

I have a question: are we actually able to state this consumption of address
is 'illegal' ? I personally judge it to be unethical, but that is not the
same thing.

-George

PS since this goes to address policy, I need to declare that I work for an
RIR but I am posting in a personal capacity and nothing I say is a
reflection of any RIR address policy. I work in the research department, not
in registry/allocations

George,
	I would figure Google would check AS path / BGP announcements ? If
they are checking source address why not routing too ?

-Jim