Programmers with network engineering skills

Fri Mar 2 15:39:19 UTC 2012

I'm definitely in that camp as well :-)

In my experience the path of least resistance is to get a junior network
engineer and mentor he/she into improving his/hers programming skills
than go the other way around.

s2

C.

On 2/27/12 6:22 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
> I think you're more likely to find a network engineer with (possibly limited)
> programming skills.
>
> That's certainly where I would categorize myself.
>
> Owen
>
> On Feb 27, 2012, at 12:02 PM, Brandt, Ralph wrote:
>
>> Generalists are hard to come by these days. They are people who learn
>> less and less about more and more till they know nothing about
>> everything. People today are specializing in the left and right halves
>> of the bytes....  They learn more and more about less and less till they
>> know everything about nothing.  And BTW, they are worthless unless you
>> have five of them working on a problem because none of them know enough
>> to fix it.  Worse, you can replace the word five with fifty and it may
>> be still true. 
>>
>> I know of three of these, all gainfully employed at this time and could
>> each find at least a couple jobs if they wanted.  I am one, my son is
>> two and a guy we worked with is the third. 
>>
>> At one time (40 years ago) the mantra in IS was train for expertise, now
>> it is hire for it.  Somewhere there has to be a happy medium.  I suggest
>> this, find a good coder, not a mediocre who writes shit code but a good
>> one who can think and learn and when you talk about branching out with
>> his skill set he or she lights up.  His first thing on site is take the
>> A+ networking course.  
>>
>> No, I do not sell the courses.  But I have seen this kind of approach
>> work when nothing else was.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ralph Brandt
>> Communications Engineer
>> HP Enterprise Services
>> Telephone +1 717.506.0802
>> FAX +1 717.506.4358
>> Email Ralph.Brandt at pateam.com
>> 5095 Ritter Rd
>> Mechanicsburg PA 17055
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: A. Pishdadi [mailto:apishdadi at gmail.com] 
>> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 8:27 PM
>> To: NANOG
>> Subject: Programmers with network engineering skills
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> i have been looking for quite some time now a descent coder (c,php) who
>> has
>> a descent amount of system admin / netadmin experience. Doesn't
>> necessarily
>> need to be an expert at network engineering but being acclimated in
>> understanding the basic fundamentals of networking. Understanding basic
>> routing concepts, how to diagnose using tcpdump / pcap, understanding
>> subnetting and how bgp works (not necessarily setting up bgp). I've
>> posted
>> job listings on the likes of dice and monster and have not found any
>> good
>> canidates, most of them ASP / Java guys.
>>
>> If anyone can point me to a site they might recommend for job postings
>> or
>> know of any consulting firms that might provide these services that
>> would
>> be greatly appreciated.
>