using "reserved" IPv6 space

Mon Jul 16 03:35:17 UTC 2012

On 7/14/12, Robert E. Seastrom <rs at seastrom.com> wrote:
>
> Actually, that's one of the most insightful meta-points I've seen on
> NANOG in a long time.
>
> There is a HUGE difference between IPv4 and IPv6 thinking.  We've all
> been living in an austerity regime for so long that we've completely
> forgotten how to leave parsimony behind.  Even those of us who worked
> at companies that were summarily handed a Class B when we mumbled
> something about "internal subnetting" have a really hard time
> remembering how to act when we suddenly don't have to answer for every
> single host address and can design a network to conserve other things
> (like our brain cells).

Suggestions?

I feel like I should be able to do something really nice with an
absurdly large address space.  But lack of imagination or whatever.. I
haven't come up with anything that really appeals to me.

Thanks,
Lee

> -Hammer- <bhmccie at gmail.com> writes:
>
>> <bashes head against wall>
>>
>> Thank you all. It's not the protocol that hurts. It's rethinking the
>> culture/philosophy around it.
>>
>> -Hammer-
>>
>> On 7/14/12 3:20 PM, "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>>
>>>They're a bad thing in IPv6.
>>>
>>>The only place for security through obscurity IMHO is a small round
>>>container that sits next to my desk.
>>>
>>>Besides, if you don't advertise it, a GUA prefix is just as obscure as a
>>>ULA prefix and provides a larger search space in which one has to hunt
>>>for it... Think /3 instead of /8.
>>>
>>>Owen
>>>
>>>On Jul 14, 2012, at 1:14 PM, -Hammer- wrote:
>>>
>>>> Guys,
>>>>    The whole purpose of this is that they do NOT need to be global.
>>>> Security thru obscurity. It actually has a place in some worlds. Does
>>>>that
>>>> make sense? Or are such V4-centric approaches a bad thing in v6?
>>>>
>>>> On 7/13/12 8:41 PM, "Brandon Ross" <bross at pobox.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 13 Jul 2012, Owen DeLong wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 13, 2012, at 4:24 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> keep life simple.  use global ipv6 space.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> randy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Though it is rare, this is one time when I absolutely agree with
>>>>>>Randy.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's even more rare for me to agree with Randy AND Owen at the same
>>>>>time.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>> brandonross
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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