NANOG Digest, Vol 49, Issue 84

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Today's Topics:

   1. RE: Colo Vending Machine (George Bonser)
   2. Re: Common operational misconceptions (Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu)
   3. RE: Colo Vending Machine (Erik Soosalu)
   4. Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine (Bill Blackford)
   5. RE: Colo Vending Machine (Nathan Eisenberg)
   6. Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine (Sven Olaf Kamphuis)
   7. RE: Colo Vending Machine (Sven Olaf Kamphuis)
   8. Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine (Matthew S. Crocker)
   9. Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine (Mike Lyon)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 19:03:44 +0000
From: George Bonser <gbonser at seven.com>
To: Jay Ashworth <jra at baylink.com>, NANOG <nanog at nanog.org>
Subject: RE: Colo Vending Machine
Message-ID:
	<596B74B410EE6B4CA8A30C3AF1A155EA09CD0995 at RWC-MBX1.corp.seven.com>
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Diagonal cutters
Screwdriver with interchangeable Phillips/straight blade
Small flashlight (with the data center provider's logo even!)
Headlamp
Small mirror (inspection mirror)
Rack screws
Zip ties
Velcro ties
Sharpie markers
Pens 
Notebook of shirt pocket size with pages that can be easily torn out for leaving notes.
Post-It
Assortment of electrical tape in various colors.
SFPs (optical and RJ-45, short and long range)
USB stick (sans viruses)
Patch cords 1, 3, 5 meter. Copper, multi-mode, single-mode fiber
USB to DB9 dongle (with driver on USB stick or one the computer can discover on the Internet)
Standard charger of sort used for most smart phones these days or the proper USB cable (micro USB)

The vending machine should use a card like an ATM/gift card, not accept cash.  You should be able to "charge" the card with some cash via a web portal and keep the card in the facility in your space.  If something is needed, one can purchase it with the card.  If there is no money on the card, a person can add cash to the card via a web portal somewhere.   Scenario:  remote hands guy arrives on site, needs an SFP, card doesn't have enough money on it, calls me, I can add the cash to the card, he can purchase the SFP and leave the card in the space for the next time it is needed.




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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 14:04:45 -0500
From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu
To: Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com>
Cc: "nanog at nanog.org" <nanog at nanog.org>
Subject: Re: Common operational misconceptions
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On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:49:13 PST, Owen DeLong said:
> Now, come on... If you're in the 40-50 range, you should have put octal
> before hex. :p

IBM S/360 definitely preferred hex.  And EBCDIC.

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 14:06:37 -0500
From: "Erik Soosalu" <erik.soosalu at calyxinc.com>
To: "NANOG" <nanog at nanog.org>
Subject: RE: Colo Vending Machine
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I know I'm being a freaking idealist.

My tool bag carries all my required sets of screws and cage nuts.  Works
great until the first level guy decides to borrow something and not put
it back.

Thanks,
Erik 
-----Original Message-----
From: Sven Olaf Kamphuis [mailto:sven at cb3rob.net] 
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 2:02 PM
To: Erik Soosalu
Cc: NANOG
Subject: RE: Colo Vending Machine


On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, Erik Soosalu wrote:

> 1) Patch cables every 1' length from 3-10'
> 2) Velcro wrap
> 3) Tools (screwdrivers, etc)
>
> And since the racks usually come with the cage nuts, maybe the colo
should just provide them.

they do? nonono, you have to buy those seperately :P

racks don't even come with "doors" and "side walls" etc by default
*grin*

you have to buy them seperately anyway if you want to make sure your 
company uses all the same ones, so you don't have to take them out again

and replace them because some fukkin idiot put the wrong size into the 
hole as it "came with something else"

> >
> Thanks,
> Erik
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jay Ashworth [mailto:jra at baylink.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 1:35 PM
> To: NANOG
> Subject: WW: Colo Vending Machine
>
> Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in
a
> vending machine at your colo; please be as specific as possible; don't
> let vendor specificity scare you off.
>
> Cheers,
> -- jra
> -- 
> Jay R. Ashworth                  Baylink
jra at baylink.com
> Designer                     The Things I Think
RFC 2100
> Ashworth & Associates     http://baylink.pitas.com         2000 Land
Rover DII
> St Petersburg FL USA      http://photo.imageinc.us             +1 727
647 1274
>
>
>




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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 11:06:50 -0800
From: Bill Blackford <bblackford at gmail.com>
To: Jay Ashworth <jra at baylink.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog at nanog.org>
Subject: Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine
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1. patch cables. MMF and SMF, LC and SC and LC/SC to include LC and SC
couplers so one can mix-and-match
2. Velcro wraps.
3. cage nuts/bolts

-b



On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Jay Ashworth <jra at baylink.com> wrote:
> Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in a
> vending machine at your colo; please be as specific as possible; don't
> let vendor specificity scare you off.
>
> Cheers,
> -- jra
> --
> Jay R. Ashworth ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Baylink ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? jra at baylink.com
> Designer ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? The Things I Think ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? RFC 2100
> Ashworth & Associates ? ? http://baylink.pitas.com ? ? ? ? 2000 Land Rover DII
> St Petersburg FL USA ? ? ?http://photo.imageinc.us ? ? ? ? ? ? +1 727 647 1274
>



-- 
Bill Blackford
Network Engineer

Logged into reality and abusing my sudo privileges.....



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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 19:06:29 +0000
From: Nathan Eisenberg <nathan at atlasnetworks.us>
To: Jay Ashworth <jra at baylink.com>, NANOG <nanog at nanog.org>
Subject: RE: Colo Vending Machine
Message-ID:
	<8C26A4FDAE599041A13EB499117D3C286B7B90A1 at ex-mb-2.corp.atlasnetworks.us>
	
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> Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in a
> vending machine at your colo; please be as specific as possible; don't
> let vendor specificity scare you off.
> 
> Cheers,
> -- jra
> --
> Jay R. Ashworth                  Baylink
> jra at baylink.com
> Designer                     The Things I Think
> RFC 2100
> Ashworth & Associates     http://baylink.pitas.com         2000 Land
> Rover DII
> St Petersburg FL USA      http://photo.imageinc.us             +1 727
> 647 1274
> 

USB A/B/Mini/Micro/Nano/Pico/etc/etc/etc cables
Spare parts (common sizes of RAM/Disks/Fans)
New servers (probably don't fit in a vending machine, but in that dark place where you need a new box *TONIGHT*, this could be a godsend)
Generically sized hoodie or sweatshirt.  Datacenters can get really cold if you're in there longer than expected.
Advil/Ibuprofen/Generic OTC Pain Reliever
Cisco Console Cables

Outside of a vending machine, I've also seen a few facilities that have normal vending machines (including instant coffee dispensers).  This has, on more than one occasion, kept me standing long enough to get the jorb done.

Nathan Eisenberg

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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 19:07:25 +0000 (UTC)
From: Sven Olaf Kamphuis <sven at cb3rob.net>
To: Tom Perrine <tperrine at scea.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog at nanog.org>
Subject: Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine
Message-ID:
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.1202171904350.32438 at a84-22-97-10.cb3rob.net>
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if a pop doesn't come with a hotel with a bar in front of the door, 
or at least around the corner, and preferably free beer, coffee, etc in 
the cantina as well, we're not a customer of theirs haha.

headace tables are good..

but then again, with noise protectors you would not get the headace in the 
first place :P

and a buttwarmer to sit on the floor (or maybe even a chair!)


On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, Tom Perrine wrote:

> On 2/17/12 10:52 AM, Leigh Porter wrote:
>>
>> On 17 Feb 2012, at 18:37, "Jay Ashworth" <jra at baylink.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in a
>>> vending machine at your colo; please be as specific as possible; don't
>>> let vendor specificity scare you off.
>>
>> Pizza, condoms and headache tablets.
>>
>
> Stone Brewery Arrogant Bastard beer - "A bitter brew for your bitter life", "You are not worthy"
>
>



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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 19:09:02 +0000 (UTC)
From: Sven Olaf Kamphuis <sven at cb3rob.net>
To: George Bonser <gbonser at seven.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog at nanog.org>
Subject: RE: Colo Vending Machine
Message-ID:
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.1202171908450.32438 at a84-22-97-10.cb3rob.net>
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or you just use your datacenter access rfid pass to pay and they put it on 
the bill later on.

-- 
Greetings,

Sven Olaf Kamphuis,
CB3ROB Ltd. & Co. KG
=========================================================================
Address: Koloniestrasse 34         VAT Tax ID:      DE267268209
          D-13359                   Registration:    HRA 42834 B
          BERLIN                    Phone:           +31/(0)87-8747479
          Germany                   GSM:             +49/(0)152-26410799
RIPE:    CBSK1-RIPE                e-Mail:          sven at cb3rob.net
=========================================================================
<penpen> C3P0, der elektrische Westerwelle
http://www.facebook.com/cb3rob
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On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, George Bonser wrote:

> Diagonal cutters
> Screwdriver with interchangeable Phillips/straight blade
> Small flashlight (with the data center provider's logo even!)
> Headlamp
> Small mirror (inspection mirror)
> Rack screws
> Zip ties
> Velcro ties
> Sharpie markers
> Pens
> Notebook of shirt pocket size with pages that can be easily torn out for leaving notes.
> Post-It
> Assortment of electrical tape in various colors.
> SFPs (optical and RJ-45, short and long range)
> USB stick (sans viruses)
> Patch cords 1, 3, 5 meter. Copper, multi-mode, single-mode fiber
> USB to DB9 dongle (with driver on USB stick or one the computer can discover on the Internet)
> Standard charger of sort used for most smart phones these days or the proper USB cable (micro USB)
>
> The vending machine should use a card like an ATM/gift card, not accept cash.  You should be able to "charge" the card with some cash via a web portal and keep the card in the facility in your space.  If something is needed, one can purchase it with the card.  If there is no money on the card, a person can add cash to the card via a web portal somewhere.   Scenario:  remote hands guy arrives on site, needs an SFP, card doesn't have enough money on it, calls me, I can add the cash to the card, he can purchase the SFP and leave the card in the space for the next time it is needed.
>
>
>
>



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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 14:10:01 -0500 (EST)
From: "Matthew S. Crocker" <matthew at corp.crocker.com>
To: Jay Ashworth <jra at baylink.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog at nanog.org>
Subject: Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine
Message-ID: <dcc840de-e8d1-4d40-8cbd-786df3754194 at zimbra1.crocker.com>
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Serial cables, DB9 -> USB converts and all of the various vendor adapters to make it work.

WTSHTF I'm always digging through my gear looking for the right serial adapter.

Duct tape, paper clips and chewing gum.  If it was good enough for McGyver it is good enough for me.


----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jay Ashworth" <jra at baylink.com>
> To: "NANOG" <nanog at nanog.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 1:35:15 PM
> Subject: WW: Colo Vending Machine
> 
> Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in
> a
> vending machine at your colo; please be as specific as possible;
> don't
> let vendor specificity scare you off.
> 
> Cheers,
> -- jra
> --
> Jay R. Ashworth                  Baylink
>                       jra at baylink.com
> Designer                     The Things I Think
>                       RFC 2100
> Ashworth & Associates     http://baylink.pitas.com         2000 Land
> Rover DII
> St Petersburg FL USA      http://photo.imageinc.us             +1 727
> 647 1274
> 
> 
> 



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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 11:10:28 -0800
From: Mike Lyon <mike.lyon at gmail.com>
To: Tom Perrine <tperrine at scea.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog at nanog.org>
Subject: Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine
Message-ID:
	<CAFFgAjCbD959ScZe2C21fo3Q1a5JYkdEtOcu+RJ=YrUMAxMYBg at mail.gmail.com>
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1. BNC tees
2. FDDI cables
3. AUI to BNC adapters.



On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Tom Perrine <tperrine at scea.com> wrote:

> On 2/17/12 10:52 AM, Leigh Porter wrote:
> >
> > On 17 Feb 2012, at 18:37, "Jay Ashworth" <jra at baylink.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in a
> >> vending machine at your colo; please be as specific as possible; don't
> >> let vendor specificity scare you off.
> >
> > Pizza, condoms and headache tablets.
> >
>
> Stone Brewery Arrogant Bastard beer - "A bitter brew for your bitter
> life", "You are not worthy"
>
>
>


-- 
Mike Lyon
408-621-4826
mike.lyon at gmail.com

http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon


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