/. ITU Approves Deep Packet Inspection

Christopher Morrow morrowc.lists at gmail.com
Wed Dec 5 19:13:09 UTC 2012

On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Tom Taylor <tom.taylor.stds at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm seriously not clear why Y.2770 is characterized as "negotiated behind
> closed doors". Any drafts were available to all participants in the ITU-T,
> on exactly the same terms as drafts of other Recommendations. As an example,
> the draft coming out of the October, 2011 meeting can be seen at
> http://www.itu.int/md/T09-SG13-111010-TD-WP4-0201/en. (I have access
> delegated by a vendor to whom I have been consulting, by virtue of their
> membership in the ITU-T.)

I suspect people mean that trying to download anything off that broken
itu website gets you a page with:
   "If you have a TIES account, please login:"

not the document you wish to download... as compared to the other (one
other) 'internet standards body' website full of
'draft/proposed/finalized' standards and discussions there-of:

which links to the:
  o open discussion mailing list(s)
  o open meeting minutes
  o current drafts and finalized standards
  o charter and etc...

open not 'open*' as the itu site is...

> I should mention that the "Next Generation Network" within the context of
> which this draft was developed is more likely to be implemented by old-line
> operators than by pure internet operations.


> Tom Taylor
> On 05/12/2012 4:34 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
>> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/12/05/0115214/itu-approves-deep-packet-inspection
>> ITU Approves Deep Packet Inspection
>> Posted by Soulskill on Tuesday December 04, @08:19PM
>> from the inspect-my-encryption-all-you'd-like dept.
>> dsinc sends this quote from Techdirt about the International
>> Telecommunications Union's ongoing conference in Dubai that will have an
>> effect on the internet everywhere: "One of the concerns is that decisions
>> taken there may make the Internet less a medium that can be used to
>> enhance
>> personal freedom than a tool for state surveillance and oppression. The
>> new
>> Y.2770 standard is entitled 'Requirements for deep packet inspection in
>> Next
>> Generation Networks', and seeks to define an international standard for
>> deep
>> packet inspection (DPI). As the Center for Democracy & Technology points
>> out,
>> it is thoroughgoing in its desire to specify technologies that can be used
>> to
>> spy on people. One of the big issues surrounding WCIT and the ITU has been
>> the lack of transparency — or even understanding what real transparency
>> might
>> be. So it will comes as no surprise that the new DPI standard was
>> negotiated
>> behind closed doors, with no drafts being made available."

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