Six Strike Rule (Was: William was raided...)

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Tue Dec 4 20:22:57 UTC 2012


Marketing... They don't want to risk it getting caught in the current backlash
against 3-strikes laws.

Owen

On Dec 4, 2012, at 11:13 , Joly MacFie <joly at punkcast.com> wrote:

> ISOC-NY ran a half day conflab on 6 strikes (which incidentally - and for
> reasons that escape me - is a name the Copyright Alert System perpetrators
> wish would not be used) last November 15.
> 
> A full archive is available at http://isoc-ny.org/p2/4527
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Jason Baugher <jason at thebaughers.com>wrote:
> 
>> We don't do content inspection. We don't really want to know what our
>> customers are doing, and even if we did, there's not enough time in the day
>> to spend paying attention. When we get complaints from the various
>> copyright agencies, we warn the customer to stop. When we hit a certain
>> number of complaints, its bye-bye customer.
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Jeroen Massar <jeroen at unfix.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2012-12-04 11:51, Nick B wrote:
>>>> In a related note, I wonder if the six-strike rule would violate the
>>> ISP's
>>>> safe harbor, as it's clearly content inspection.
>>> 
>>> As performed in France, what happens is that some copyright owner
>>> contacts the ISP that IP address a.b.c.d had accessed/served copyright
>>> infringing data at date/time dd-mm-yyyy HH:mm providing some kind of
>>> detail on how they figured that out.
>>> 
>>> That report is a 'strike' and gets forwarded to the user.
>>> 
>>> If that then happens 6 times they are blocked.
>>> 
>>> The ISP as such does not do any content inspection.
>>> 
>>> It is though assumed that some ISPs simply count bytes and that they do
>>> some investigation themselves when you reach a certain bandwidth
>>> threshold (it seems to correlate that copyright infringers are
>>> downloading a lot more than normal webbrowsing users...)
>>> 
>>> Greets,
>>> Jeroen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 
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