William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if

Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu
Tue Dec 4 19:35:48 UTC 2012

On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:32:01 +0000, Brian Johnson said:

> This is a misleading statement. ISP's (Common carriers) do not provide a knowingly
> illegal offering, ... TOR  exit/entrance nodes provide only the former.

This is also a misleading statement.  Explain the difference between
a consumer ISP selling you a cable Internet plan knowing that NN% of
the traffic will be data with questionable copyright status, and
1 of of 5 or so will be a botted box doing other illegal stuff,
and a TOR node providing transit knowing that NN% will be similarly
questionable etc etc etc.

In other words, if TOR exit nodes provide a "knowingly illegal offering",
then Comcast is doing exactly the same thing...

(Also, feel free to cite actual statute or case law that says TOR is
by *definition* or finding of fact, a "knowingly illegal offering" in
and of itself - distinct from what uses the user thereof may do with it.
Absent that, it's not  a "knowingly illegal offering" the same way that
some sites have ended up in court for contributory copyright infringement.)
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