LSMSGCV: Your message to curtis.starnes at was blocked as spam - please reply to forward it

William Herrin bill at
Thu Aug 30 12:51:38 UTC 2012

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 6:24 AM, Rich Kulawiec <rsk at> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 09:33:18PM -0400, William Herrin wrote:
>> The message from Curtis' mailer implies that it's not a blanket
>> challenge. Maybe you just discovered a problem with your mail server
>> that he can help you identify and fix.
> Perhaps there is or isn't a problem with the sender's mail server,
> but C/R is *never* the appropriate method for dealing with such: it's an
> inherently abusive, spamming approach that was thoroughly discredited
> a decade ago and should never be used.


Auto-response (including vacation messages and spam challenges) is the
pro-life/pro-choice debate of the email community. Pretty much
everybody agrees that when they respond to list traffic they're doing
the wrong thing. Beyond that the level of agreement drops off quickly.
A minority hold the belief that autoresponse is always wrong and last
I checked the RFCs still say that a message indicating
undeliverability should be sent when a mailer can't deliver a message.

At any rate, it's about as "thoroughly discredited" as the pro-choice movement.

Bill Herrin

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