Fair Use Policy

Wed Aug 22 19:41:58 UTC 2012

Dear Owen,
Would you please describe this some how more in my bussiness plan?
I have both limited and unlimited users.
For example I have these services in my package:
512Kb-5GB-1Month
256Kb-Unlimit-1Month
And like this.
Thanks

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:

> Right... more specific aspect of the same coin. If you have adequate
> facilities, you don't need to shape users.
> If you have users that are overconsuming for your pricing model, there are
> two good solutions:
>
> 1. Raise the prices enough for everyone that you can absorb these users.
>  2. Implement usage-based charges (or usage based charges above a certain
> usage tier) that cause these users to either self-regulate or pay for the
> necessary
>  upgrades to your infrastructure.
>
> Claiming to deliver "unlimited" service and then shaping it is, IMHO, a
> questionable business practice at best.
>
> Owen
>
> On Aug 22, 2012, at 12:06 , Shahab Vahabzadeh <sh.vahabzadeh at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> What I am talking mostly is some services like COA, in which you can
> change users shape time-base and periodically without disconnecting them.
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:33 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>
>> If you want to control usage that way, sell a metered product. Bill the
>> heavy users more for their usage.
>>
>> Otherwise, price your services such that you can build adequate upstream
>> capacity to serve your users.
>>
>> I'm not a fan of using "rateshaping" (which is what you are describing)
>> to cover for inadequate facilities.
>>
>> Owen
>>
>> On Aug 22, 2012, at 11:57 , Shahab Vahabzadeh <sh.vahabzadeh at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Owen,
>> As you know in pick time of internet usage like midnight in which we have
>> free-access times too, some users which really want to use internet for
>> their daily usage and not downloading or using peer-to-peer services
>> unfairly affecting this problem.
>> Some companies are using some polices for users to solve this problem.
>> Do you have any Idea?
>> Thanks
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think the first step would be to define what you mean by fair use.
>>>
>>> Are you talking in the DMCA sense of the term, the legal sense of the
>>> term as applies
>>> to IP in other areas, or something else?
>>>
>>> Owen
>>>
>>> On Aug 22, 2012, at 11:40 , Shahab Vahabzadeh <sh.vahabzadeh at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hello Everybody,
>>> > Has any body any good and easy setup idea for "Fair Use Policy"
>>> service for
>>> > my xdsl customers?!
>>> > Can do this in the BRAS side and nothing done with accounting and
>>> radius?
>>> > Thanks
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Regards,
>>> > Shahab Vahabzadeh, Network Engineer and System Administrator
>>> >
>>> > Cell Phone: +1 (415) 871 0742
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>>> BF90
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Shahab Vahabzadeh, Network Engineer and System Administrator
>>
>> Cell Phone: +1 (415) 871 0742
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>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Shahab Vahabzadeh, Network Engineer and System Administrator
>
> Cell Phone: +1 (415) 871 0742
> PGP Key Fingerprint = 8E34 B335 D702 0CA7 5A81  C2EE 76A2 46C2 5367 BF90
>
>
>

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Regards,
Shahab Vahabzadeh, Network Engineer and System Administrator

Cell Phone: +1 (415) 871 0742
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