Verizon's New Repair Method: Plastic Garbage Bags

Steve Meuse smeuse at
Wed Aug 22 16:31:18 UTC 2012

Contact your Public Utility Commission, they tend to respond better when
there are formal complaints documented.


On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Eric Wieling <EWieling at> wrote:

> The garbage bags have been on that pole for at least 6+ months.
> What will end up happening is what happens every time something like this
> happens.  We call in trouble tickets for months until we can get the issue
> labeled chronic, then we get a "Class 1 inspection", then they fix it.
> One issue is that to get it labeled chronic there needs to be three tickets
> opened within a month.  VZ's temp fix often works long enough that we can't
> get enough tickets in within a month.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Herrin [mailto:bill at]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 11:58 AM
> To: Wayne E Bouchard
> Cc: nanog at
> Subject: Re: Verizon's New Repair Method: Plastic Garbage Bags
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Wayne E Bouchard <web at> wrote:
> >> > On 08/20/2012 03:09 PM, Eric Wieling wrote:
> >> >>
> > To be fair, this sort of thing does happen from time to time in
> > perfectly legitimate situations. In some cases, parts need to be
> > acquired or maintenance schedules need to be arranged in order to do a
> > propper repair. So just because you see these, don't immediately think
> > it is bad techs rather than a temporary, "keep it working until you
> > can do it right."
> Uh... no. Quick hacks happen from time to time to keep things running.
> Layers upon layers of quick hacks that are never cleaned up (see
> picture) happen through incompetence. If not on the part of the techs then
> on the part of the managers who rushed the techs onward to the next task.
> Always time to do it over, never time to do it right == incompetent.
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
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