BGPttH. Neustar can do it, why can't we?

Mon Aug 6 22:05:21 UTC 2012

Owen,

     That's like saying if it were easy to fly we'd all be pilots, which 
isn't true either.  BGP would need to be completely redesigned/replaced 
before it could possibly be automated to that level much less 
implemented by the Lynksis/DLink/Netgear/$yourfavoritesohorouter 
vendor.  Business would need a reason to implement BGP and most simply 
don't AND BGP would have to be dramatically simpler and safer.  
Operators already have to be deeply involved (AKA filtering the 
announced networks) with edge network BGP implementations to prevent 
someone from announcing they're the preferred route for some other 
organization's netblock.  This happens already on occasion and all of 
the people who run routers speaking BGP are generally professionals.

On 8/6/2012 4:27 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
> Respectfully, I disagree... I think this is a causal chain...
>
> 1.	Lack of cost-effective BGP-based service means that
> 2.	CPE vendors are not motivated to provide self-configuring bgp-speaking routers to behave in this manner means that
> 3.	SMBs seek other solutions using available CPE technology.
>
> If cost-effective BGP-based service were available, providers would likely work with CPE vendors to get automation features added to products to support such services and multihomed organizations would definitely want to use those features.
>
> Owen
>
> On Aug 6, 2012, at 13:16 , Scott Helms <khelms at ispalliance.net> wrote:
>
>> Probability is much too strong IMO.  Most businesses don't even consider multi-homing and many that do use NAT devices with several connections rather than trying to run BGP.
>>
>> #not associated nor do I recommend, just an example
>>
>> http://www.fatpipeinc.com/warp/index.html
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>>
>>> This ignores the probability that cost effective BGP service availability would
>>> strongly drive demand for AS Numbers and adoption of the technology.
>>>
>>> Owen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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>> Scott Helms
>> Vice President of Technology
>> ZCorum
>> (678) 507-5000
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