Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option?

Frank Bulk frnkblk at
Mon Aug 6 02:41:15 UTC 2012

I think the term "critical" is being used in different senses in this
discussion.  Are people's lives critical?  Yes, but the regulations for
wired and wireless infrastructure don't require service providers to expend
any and all costs to maintain connectivity.  And we don't have ambulances
and fire trucks at every corner and hospitals in every subdivision.  Despite
the almost incalculable value of life, there are still limitations on all
the services provided to residences.  Would I like to have the same uptime
at my home as we have in the CO? or data center?  Sure, but collectively we
aren't willing, nay, able, to pay that price.


-----Original Message-----
From: William Herrin [mailto:bill at] 
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 11:15 PM
To: Andy Koch
Cc: nanog at
Subject: Re: Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option?


On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Nathan Eisenberg
<nathan at> wrote:
>> Residences aren't critical infrastructure, no matter how angry the owners
> 911 access isn't a critical service?  Fire and security panels aren't
critical services?
> If basic life safety and property protection aren't critical services, I'm
not sure what is.

Whether each individual's residence contains critical infrastructure
is a decision best left up to that individual. By necessity that makes
the upstream aggregation components critical infrastructure. No
different than it was for POTS 20 years ago.

The Internet isn't just a toy any more. It's the primary
communications channel in to many folks homes and well on its way to
becoming the primary channel period.

Bill Herrin

William D. Herrin ................ herrin at  bill at
3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <>
Falls Church, VA 22042-3004

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