Squeezing IPs out of ARIN

-Hammer- bhmccie at gmail.com
Wed Apr 25 10:54:39 CDT 2012

I can say that I recently completed the purchase of a large IPv6 block. 
We've had several large V4 blocks for years and got them with very 
little effort. For this block, we had to provide a detailed list of all 
our physical locations as well as how the IP schema would be utilized. I 
also had to provide site drawings (scrubbed visios) showing my topology 
layout to justify my additional ASNs. It was not a harsh ordeal. ARIN 
was very professional about it. But it was a lot more paperwork than 
what I've needed in the past. None of it seemed unreasonable. We just 
had to work out NDAs and whatnot so I could share more detailed 
information with them.


"I was a normal American nerd"
-Jack Herer

On 4/25/2012 10:34 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
> There is not a new policy added on to prevent hoarding. What is required is what
> has been required for several years. Utilization information and proper justification.
> If you are seeking an ISP allocation, then, reassignment (customer) information is
> in fact part of that utilization information.
> Owen
> On Apr 25, 2012, at 8:22 AM, Kenneth McRae wrote:
>> Negative..  I have never had to provide end user information.  I have been
>> required to provide utilization information.  I am sure this "policy" is
>> and add-on to make it more difficult to prevent hoarding..
>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Jonathan Lassoff<jof at thejof.com>  wrote:
>>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:32 AM,<admin at thecpaneladmin.com>  wrote:
>>>> Anyone have any tips for getting IPs from ARIN? For an end-user
>>> allocation
>>>> they are requesting that we provide customer names for existing
>>> allocations,
>>>> which is information that will take a while to obtain. They are insisting
>>>> that this is standard process and something that everyone does when
>>>> requesting IPs.  Has anyone actually had to do this?
>>> Indeed. It's worked this way for a long time.
>>> When starting a new organization, there's a bit of a chicken and egg
>>> problem with IP space. If anyone could get IP space just for asking
>>> for it, it would have been consumed too quickly. So, organizations
>>> must first get some space assigned to them from an upstream provider
>>> and begin using it.
>>> At some point the current usage and growth rate of the assigned space
>>> will justify a direct allocation.
>>> Then, you can renumber into your new space and be totally independent.
>>> Cheers,
>>> jof
>> -- 
>> Best Regards,
>> Kenneth McRae
>> *Sr. Network Engineer*
>> kenneth.mcrae at dreamhost.com
>> Ph: 323-375-3814
>> www.dreamhost.com

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