Squeezing IPs out of ARIN

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Wed Apr 25 10:34:30 CDT 2012

There is not a new policy added on to prevent hoarding. What is required is what
has been required for several years. Utilization information and proper justification.

If you are seeking an ISP allocation, then, reassignment (customer) information is
in fact part of that utilization information.


On Apr 25, 2012, at 8:22 AM, Kenneth McRae wrote:

> Negative..  I have never had to provide end user information.  I have been
> required to provide utilization information.  I am sure this "policy" is
> and add-on to make it more difficult to prevent hoarding..
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Jonathan Lassoff <jof at thejof.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:32 AM,  <admin at thecpaneladmin.com> wrote:
>>> Anyone have any tips for getting IPs from ARIN? For an end-user
>> allocation
>>> they are requesting that we provide customer names for existing
>> allocations,
>>> which is information that will take a while to obtain. They are insisting
>>> that this is standard process and something that everyone does when
>>> requesting IPs.  Has anyone actually had to do this?
>> Indeed. It's worked this way for a long time.
>> When starting a new organization, there's a bit of a chicken and egg
>> problem with IP space. If anyone could get IP space just for asking
>> for it, it would have been consumed too quickly. So, organizations
>> must first get some space assigned to them from an upstream provider
>> and begin using it.
>> At some point the current usage and growth rate of the assigned space
>> will justify a direct allocation.
>> Then, you can renumber into your new space and be totally independent.
>> Cheers,
>> jof
> -- 
> Best Regards,
> Kenneth McRae
> *Sr. Network Engineer*
> kenneth.mcrae at dreamhost.com
> Ph: 323-375-3814
> www.dreamhost.com

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