vyatta for bgp

Wed Sep 21 23:14:26 UTC 2011

I'll chime in,

In an enterprise environment, I've worked with software routers as well as
hardware beasts (ala Junipers, Cisco 6500s, ASAs, and more).

Ultimately, the network is as reliable as you build it. With software, it's
much cheaper to divide and scale horizontally. Hardware devices are
expensive and usually horizontal scalability never happens. So in reality,
an enterprise blows 100k on two routers, they both flop because of some
"firmware bug", and you're down.

The most reliable/cost effective solution is the cheap and redundant
approach to architecture.

Reliable hardware is incredibly inexpensive, and every year we get better
CPUs and (recently) GPUs that are providing APIs and interfaces to their
incredible parallel processing capability.

btw, you guys might find
PacketShader<http://shader.kaist.edu/packetshader/>a pretty
interesting concept

-Andreas

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 6:51 AM, Alain Hebert <ahebert at pubnix.net> wrote:

>     Hi,
>
>    As usual this end-up in what people prefer.
>
>    Vyatta is as good as the hardware it runs on, the backend they use and
> the people configuring/maintaining it.
>
>    The nature of ASIC make it more reliable than a multi-purpose device
> (aka server) running an OS written for it.
>
>    It end up being a choice between risk and cost and being that you can
> get your hand on second hand iron for cheap these days...
>
>    Why risk it.
>
>
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> On 09/15/11 09:05, Ray Soucy wrote:
>
>> Is Vyatta really not suited for the task?
>>
>> I keep checking up on it and holding off looking into it as they don't
>> support multicast yet.
>>
>> Modern commodity sever hardware these days often out-powers big iron
>> enough to make up for not using ASICs, though, at least on the lower
>> end of the spectrum.
>>
>> Does anyone have any more details on Vyatta not scaling?  Were you
>> trying to run it as a VM?  What were you using for NICs? etc.
>>
>> The hardware matters.  Saying Vyatta doesn't cut it could mean anything...
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Dobbins, Roland<rdobbins at arbor.net>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> On Sep 14, 2011, at 5:54 AM, Deepak Jain wrote:
>>>
>>>  Some enterprises get MPLS L3 VPN service from their providers, and need
>>>> boxes that can route packets to it and speak BGP to inject their routes.
>>>>  They are not, per se, connected to the Internet, and thus won't be
>>>> "zorched", at least in the sense you are using it.
>>>>
>>> Hence 'public-facing'.
>>>
>>> ;>
>>>
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>>>
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