Internet mauled by bears

Vinny_Abello at Vinny_Abello at
Wed Sep 21 21:57:18 UTC 2011

I'd believe that regarding the cattle. 

When the company I used to work for years ago was focused more on residential services including dial-up, we had a customer who constantly complained about problems getting or staying connected to our dial-up service. When one of our techs was on the phone discussing the problem, he heard this steady ticking noise. When asked what that noise was, the customer told him it was interference from his electric fence for his cows. Long story short, the electric fence was causing all the noise on the phone line messing up his connection. Now the funny part is he found turning the fence off would improve his connectivity, but he said whenever he did that his cows would escape! So, there might be some truth to that. :)


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From: PC [mailto:paul4004 at] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 1:25 AM
To: Jason Baugher
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Subject: Re: Internet mauled by bears

On the other hand, I've been told that during a power outage cattle can
sometimes "smell" that the electricity is gone... all their noses start
sniffing after one in the pasture starts... and make a run for it...
Probably is an old wives tale...

Yeah, Sheep or Goat proof fence?  Good luck.  Here they just let them roam
and the sheep herders follow them... until they bring them out of the
mountains for the winter.

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Jason Baugher <jason at>wrote:

> On 9/20/2011 2:37 AM, Joel jaeggli wrote:
>> On 9/19/11 18:49 , Richard Barnes wrote:
>>> And if they turn up the voltage on the fence high enough, dinner could be
>>> cooked by the time the crew gets there!
>> montana experience says:
>> cows have rather thick skin, sheep come with insulation, and bison will
>> go through anything that gets in their way including 3 x 6" diameter
>> corner posts and 4 strands of barbed and 2 hot wires.
>> horses on the other hand are pansies.
>> livestock always ends up on the other side of the fence...
> In Illinois:
> Cows actually train to electric fence (hot wire) fairly well. They don't
> like being shocked too much. Once they get used to the fence, you can shut
> it off and they'll stay in for weeks because they won't even attempt it.
> That said, sometimes you get a cow that just really wants to be difficult
> and will go through anything. That cow is suddenly turned into hamburger.
> Pigs also train to electric fence well. As tough as their hide is, it
> shocks well.
> Sheep are difficult. Other than when they are recently sheared, they have a
> natural protection across 95% of their body. Unless it hits them in the head
> or lower leg, they aren't going to feel it. Even when sheared, they are a
> very stubborn animal. I've seen them standing facing a fence, swaying
> forward and backward, almost like they're trying to time the shock pulse.
> Then they go on through and tear up the wire and posts in the process. I've
> seen 4 strands of wire spaced about 10 inches apart and they won't stay in.
> Horses are okay, but you have to tie things to the wire so they can see it.
> They're too dumb to remember where it is, apparently.
> There is a big range of fence boxes. Some have a long pulse that isn't too
> "hot". If you hold one of these, they make your hand and arm muscles clench
> up but they don't hurt too much. The other end of the range have a short
> "hot" pulse that will jump a good distance and will burn through green
> weeds. These hurt.
>  On Sep 19, 2011 9:34 PM, "Suresh Ramasubramanian"<ops.lists@**<ops.lists at>
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:20 AM, John van Oppen
>>> <jvanoppen at>  wrote:
>>>> We had a cow br...
>>> Your crews turning up there the next time a cow tries its luck are
>>> guaranteed a steak dinner then.

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