wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network
rcarpen at network1.net
Sat Sep 17 23:52:03 UTC 2011
> > I have a small ISP customer who is not multi-homed, and is using
> > about a /21 and a half of space, and is expanding. Their upstream
> > is refusing to give them more space, so they wanted to get their
> > own, and give back the space to the upstream, with the possible
> > exception of a small block for their servers, which would be very
> > difficult to renumber. We explained this all, and the response we
> > got from ARIN was that we needed to have a full /20 from the
> > upstream, at which time we could easily get a /20 of new space. In
> > order to qualify for the immediate need, we would need to show
> > need for the entire /20, of which we would need to fully utilize
> > (renumber into) within 30 days. That is not even remotely
> > possible.
> Or, they could easily multihome and qualify at a much smaller
Unfortunately, this is prohibitively expensive. They are small rural telcos who are connected to a collective state-wide fiber network. Any second provider would could an order of magnitude (or more) more than what they have, and would likely be delivered over the same fiber network anyway.
> > The problem with this whole thing is that I have no less than 4
> > ISPs that are in almost the same boat.
> Then propose a policy change to rectify it.
Noted, and planned :-)
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