Microsoft deems all DigiNotar certificates untrustworthy, releases

Valdis.Kletnieks at Valdis.Kletnieks at
Mon Sep 12 20:41:03 UTC 2011

On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 22:31:59 +0200, Måns Nilsson said:

> Since you are from Sweden, and in an IT job, you probably have personal
> relations to someone who has personal relations to one of the swedes
> or other nationalities that were present at the key ceremonies for the
> root. Once you've established that the signatures on the root KSK are good
> (which -- because of the above -- should be doable OOB quite easily for
> you) you can start validating the entire chain of trust.
> Quite trivial, in fact.

I'll note that the PGP "strongly connected set" has grown all the way to 45,000
or so keys in 2 decades of growth.  There are several billion Internet users. What
may be workable for Fredrik is probably *not* scalable to Joe Sixpack.
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