Do Not Complicate Routing Security with Voodoo Economics

Sun Sep 4 19:30:32 UTC 2011

Neil,

> maybe volunteers from the nanog community should contact you?

Thanks for the suggestion!  Yes, I would encourage interested people to contact me.  We won't be able to put everyone on the working group (in the interest of having a small enough group to make progress), but we are very interested in having people who can offer their expertise, feedback, and advice throughout the process...

-- Jen

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> On 4 Sep 2011, at 16:45, "Jennifer Rexford" <jrex at CS.Princeton.EDU> wrote:
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>> Neil,
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>> The group is being assembled right now, so we don't have a list as of yet. 
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>> -- Jen
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 4, 2011, at 11:32 AM, "Neil J. McRae" <neil at domino.org> wrote:
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>>> Jen,
>>> What operators are involved? And who represents them specifically?
>>> 
>>> Neil.
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>>> On 04/09/2011 16:07, "Jennifer Rexford" <jrex at CS.Princeton.EDU> wrote:
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>>>> 
>>>> As one of the co-chairs of this working group, I'd like to chime in to
>>>> clarify the purpose of this group.  Our goal is to assemble a group of
>>>> vendors and operators (not "publish or perish" academics) to discuss and
>>>> recommend effective strategies for incremental deployment of security
>>>> solutions for BGP (e.g., such as the ongoing RPKI and BGP-SEC work).  It
>>>> is not to design new security protocols or to "write policy and
>>>> procedures for operators" -- that would of course be over-reaching and
>>>> presumptuous.  The goal is specifically to identify strategies for
>>>> incremental deployment of the solutions designed and evaluated by the
>>>> appropriate technical groups (e.g., IETF working groups).  And, while the
>>>> SIGCOMM paper you mention is an example of such a strategy, it is just
>>>> one single example -- and is by no means the recommendation of a group
>>>> that is not yet even fully assembled yet.  The working group will debate
>>>> and discuss a great many issues before suggesting any strategies, and
>>>> those strategies would be the output of the entire working group.
>>>> 
>>>> <tongue in cheek> As for "publish or perish" academics, I doubt you'll
>>>> find that the small set of academics who choose to go knee deep into
>>>> operational issues do so because they are trying to optimize their
>>>> academic careers... ;) </tongue in cheek>
>>>> 
>>>> -- Jen
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