iCloud - Is it going to hurt access providers?

Phil Pierotti phil.pierotti at gmail.com
Sun Sep 4 00:20:35 UTC 2011

I'm not 100% certain and have no references to back it up but I recall
reading an article which described the Apple cloud music strategy as being
one where for existing identified music it merely stores a reference of some
kind against your account rather than actually storing an additional copy.
Presumably for the sake of sanity it would be implemented in the application
where it saves the end user the cost/time of uploading as well, if for no
other reason that said cost/time/cpu resource would also be a real cost to
Apple directly or indirectly.

Mumble-something about "even for your own music you have
ripped-not-purchased, pay $nominal-annual-fee and it magically becomes a
legal licensed object" (which obviously they did because then it becomes
something they have one single stored copy of with references on remote

Phil P

On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 3:49 AM, Jimmy Hess <mysidia at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 6:20 AM, Skeeve Stevens <Skeeve at eintellego.net>
> wrote:
> > My guess is that 99% of consumer internet access is Asymmetrical (DSL,
> Cable, wireless, etc) and iCloud when launched will 'upload' obscene amounts
> of gigs of music, tv, backups, email, photos, documents/data and so on to
> their data centres.
> What would be obscene about that is from a design POV it would be a
> waste of resources.
> "Music"  and "TV"    content are from a small number of sources, and
> there are a massive potential number of users.
> What should happen is instead of transmitting  large video files...
> block checksums should be transmitted,
> and only files that are completely foreign should be transferred.
> Whereas everything else being "backed up"  is just an assignment of
> account access to existing blocks  that would
> already have been stored on the  content servers.
> And then also,   a user storing  10GB of music  would probably take
> only a  few megabytes of  their account space,
> once the "space used"  is evenly  divided by the number of users that
> have that block saved,
> since a majority of music files backed up would be file-identical
> with  material  someone else had already backed up,
> and identical to material  already in  the iTunes store  (which they
> could pre-seed their database with).
> --
> -JH

>>>> two eyes to tease, an aargh ... an oh there's a pie in there somewhere

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