[outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

Jamie Bowden jamie at photon.com
Thu Oct 13 11:36:11 UTC 2011

You are correct.  The BES uses PSKs to talk to RIM's servers, which then
uses them to talk to the devices over the carrier networks.  All of this
was in complete failure mode until sometime overnight when it appears to
have all started flowing again.  Someday either Google or Apple will get
off their rear ends and roll out an end to end encrypted service that
plugs into corporate email/calendar/workgroup services and we can all
gladly toss these horrid little devices in the recycle bins where they


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Abley [mailto:jabley at hopcount.ca]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 6:06 PM
> To: Phil Regnauld
> Cc: nanog at nanog.org
> Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide
> On 2011-10-12, at 18:02, Phil Regnauld wrote:
> > Joe Abley (jabley) writes:
> >>
> >> On 2011-10-12, at 13:05, Leigh Porter wrote:
> >>
> >>> Email on my iPhone is working fine.. ;-)
> >>
> >> The blackberry message service is centralised with a lot of
> processing intelligence in the core. Messaging services that use the
> core as a simple transport and shift the processing intelligence to
> edge have different, less-dramatic failure modes.
> >
> > 	This is not the case for corporate customers with dedicated
> servers,
> > 	AFAIU.
> I'm no expert, but my understanding is that at some/most/all traffic
> between handhelds and a BES, carried from the handheld device through
> cellular network, still flows through RIM.
> Joe

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