meeting network

Frank Bulk frnkblk at
Mon Oct 10 22:41:38 UTC 2011

Holding the last 10% of the meeting room payment seems like a good start for
any venue.

But as others have indicated, the market may be too small for free-market
principles to be fully effective.


-----Original Message-----
From: JC Dill [mailto:jcdill.lists at] 
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 1:36 PM
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group
Subject: Re: meeting network

On 10/10/11 7:00 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
> It would be wise for NANOG to approach future venues and specifically
discuss these things with the hotel IT departments in question ahead of time
so that they have some remote chance of being prepared.

I tried this approach many years ago, for a Blogher conference.  The 
hotel's IT people were uncooperative, and incompetent, and they lied 
both about their network design and their equipment capabilities.  I 
have since learned that this is par for the course.  IMHO the only way 
to solve this problem is with big $$$ penalties in the contract, big 
enough that the incompetent IT people realize their jobs are on the line 
and relinquish control so experts can get access and set-up things properly.

Also note - the conference or hotel's IT people will always claim they 
have "done this before with no problems" even when they haven't.


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