Ham Radio Networking (was Re: Rogers Canada using for internal address space)

David Conrad drc at virtualized.org
Thu May 26 20:54:10 UTC 2011

And I just want to point out that a full /8 (worth $188,911,452.16 at the benchmark rate as set by Microsoft/NNI) is dedicated to AMPR... :-)

When I was at IANA, we (where by "we" I mean Leo Vegoda :-)) looked at trying to reclaim this /8 around the same time we were recovering the /8 dedicated to X.25.  The decentralized nature of administration of 44/8 made this somewhat intractable.  It'll be interesting to see how this plays out in the future address markets.


On May 26, 2011, at 10:19 AM, Carl Rosevear wrote:

> Used to run IP over AX.25 using KA9Q JNOS back in the day.  HF at 300
> baud simplex / half-duplex and VHF 144 Mhz at 1200 with similar
> characteristics.  I bought some 9600 baud gear at one point but never
> got it all put together before moving on to the regular internet and
> (somewhat unfortunately) not really looking back.  I remember
> transferring some uuencoded gifs via smtp...  a couple of days later,
> if you were lucky, it would complete.  I learned about how protocols
> communicate watching packet traces in KA9Q JNOS when I was about 14
> years old.  It was really easy when there were guaranteed to be
> multiple seconds between packets.  I remember being 14 and feeling
> pretty suave when I figured out how to telnet into an SMTP server to
> send mail...  of course that is old hat but still good common
> troubleshooting these days!
> de KB7LIG
> --Carl
> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Jack Carrozzo <jack at crepinc.com> wrote:
>> Me personally? No, but I have used it. IP over 9600baud serial actually
>> isn't that bad for IRC when you're in the middle of the woods and all.
>> You want slow... read about winlink2000, the email/messaging system for hams
>> and emergency response. It's PSK on HF, meant to be reliable but if you get
>> more than 400bps you are doing GREAT! It's so slow that you can run the
>> software on two laptops using the sound cards, and they'll talk across the
>> room via speakers and mics no problem. It sounds kinda like robots rapping.
>> -Jack Carrozzo
>> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Christopher Pilkington <cjp at 0x1.net>wrote:
>>> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Jack Carrozzo <jack at crepinc.com> wrote:
>>>> Nope, mostly HF (under 30mhz) gear at 300baud. Yes, you read that right.
>>> You are running IP on this?  And I though 1200 bauds half duplex was slow.
> -- 
> Carl Rosevear
> Manager of Operations
> Skytap, Inc.
> direct (206) 588-8899

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