(OT) Firearms Was: UN declares Internet access a "human right"

Nick Olsen nick at flhsi.com
Mon Jun 6 15:37:44 UTC 2011

Don't leave the house without my Glock 23 on my side. Truck always has a 
loaded 12ga in it. In the house, I've got a handful of pistols and my 
SR-556 (AR-15) in the "Guns and servers" closet.
I've had people call me Paranoid more then once. My stance is "Better to 
have it and not need it, Then need it and not have it."
By banning guns from a community, Your only taking them out of the hands of 
law abiding citizens. Not like most criminals get guns via legal channels 
in the first place.

-Nick Olsen

 From: "Daniel Seagraves" <dseagrav at humancapitaldev.com>
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 10:34 AM
To: nanog at nanog.org
Subject: Re: (OT) Firearms Was: UN declares Internet access a "human 

On Jun 6, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu wrote:

> Nice try, but the human right you just made a case for is "the right to 
> yourself of criminals and despots".  A "fundamental right" for citizens 
to have
> firearms does *not* automatically follow.  Yes, despots usually need to 
> removed by force.  What Ghandi showed was that the force didn't have to 
> military - there are other types of force that work well too...

I believe that as a law-abiding citizen, I should have the right to be at 
least as well-armed as the average criminal. If the average criminal has 
access to firearms, then I should have that option as well. I should not be 
forced into a disadvantage against criminals by virtue of my compliance 
with the law. Once law enforcement is effective enough to prevent the 
average criminal from having access to firearms, then the law-abiding 
population can be compelled to disarm. This stance can result in an 
escalation scenario in which criminals strive to remain better-armed than 
their intended victims, but the job of law enforcement is to prevent them 
from being successful.

At present, the average criminal in my area does not have firearms, and so 
I do not own one. Gun crime is on the increase, however, so this situation 
may change.

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