Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

Cameron Byrne cb.list6 at
Mon Jun 6 01:33:16 UTC 2011

On Jun 5, 2011 6:15 PM, "Mark Andrews" <marka at> wrote:
> In message <BANLkTimGkuL7ycrYG6kTC1U7OWis9dOA+YaV-YHwr+5C8=
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> , =?UTF-8?B?SsOpcsO0bWUgTmljb2xsZQ==?= writes:
> > 2011/6/6 Mark Andrews <marka at>:
> >
> > > There is no reason that they can't do a similar thing to move
> > > customers who are doing things that break with LSN out from behind
> > > the LSN.
> >
> > Oh, you're right, they'll surelly do that. But not in time, and not for
> > e.
> Well here in Australia I would be calling the ACCC is a ISP tried
> to charge extra for a address that is not behind a LSN.  As for in
> time it should be in place before they turn on LSN.  If you can
> adjust port 25 filters whenever a customer gets a new address you
> can also ensure that they get address from the correct pool when
> they connect to the network.  This really isn't rocket science.
> It's updating the provisioning database from a web form and generating
> new configs based on that database.  Yes there is some work required
> to ensure that this gets done properly and there needs to be checks
> that address pools are appropriately sized.

Can you cite an example of an isp doing this? My assumption is that people
will get LSN by default for standard residential broad band and business
class will get public ip's.

Without any commitments to cite, plan for the worst and hope for the best.

> If I were doing it I would also have checkboxes for some of the
> more common reasons and include IPv6 connectivity as one then have
> a 6 month grace period once the ISP offers IPv6 connectivity before
> removing that as a valid reason for needing a address that is not
> behind the LSN.
> > LSN is beeing actively implemented in the core network of several
> > ISPs, and most didn't yet consider it as optional. Nor are ready for
> > v6 connectivity to residential customers, though.
> >
> > For users behind a forced NAT (no way to disable it on the CPE) or
> > LSN, the only way out is still tunneling. Talking about bandwidth and
> > infrastructure waste...
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> Mark Andrews, ISC
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