Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?)

Joel Jaeggli joelja at bogus.com
Mon Jul 11 15:20:04 UTC 2011


On Jul 11, 2011, at 8:13 AM, William Herrin wrote:

> 
> 
>>>>> Today's RFC candidates are required to call out IANA considerations
>>>>> and security considerations in special sections. They do so because
>>>>> each of these areas has landmines that the majority of working groups
>>>>> are ill equipped to consider on their own.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There should be an operations callout as well -- a section where
>>>>> proposed operations defaults (as well as statics for which a solid
>>>>> case can be made for an operations tunable) are extracted from the
>>>>> thick of it and offered for operator scrutiny prior to publication of
>>>>> the RFC.
> 
> Do you find this adjustment objectionable? Do you have other fresh
> ideas to float? Something better than the tired refrain about
> operators not showing up?

The operations area has a directorate. It reviews basically every draft in front of the IESG.

I'm on it.

Am I not an operator?

Do I think that adding yet another required section to an internet draft is going to increase it's quality? 

No I do not.

> 'Cause I have to tell you: Several years ago I picked a working group
> and I showed up. And I faced and lost the argument against the
> persistent certainty on the workability of ridiculous deployment
> scenarios by folks who never managed any system larger than a software
> development lab. And I stopped participating in the group about a year
> ago as the core of participants who hadn't given up wandered off into
> la la land.



> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
> 
> 
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