NIST IPv6 document

Julien Goodwin nanog at studio442.com.au
Thu Jan 6 07:25:07 CST 2011


On 06/01/11 16:01, John Levine wrote:
>> Still, the idea that "nobody will scan a /64" reminds me of the days
>> when 640K ought to be enough for anybody, ...
> 
> We really need to wrap our heads around the orders of magnitude
> involved here.  If you could scan an address every nanosecond, which I
> think is a reasonable upper bound what with the speed of light and
> all, it would still take 500 years to scan a /64.  Enumerating all the
> addresses will never be practical.  But there's plenty of damage one
> can do with a much less than thorough enumeration.

I'm probably ruining an interview question from $COMPANYTHATDIDN'THIREME
but think just of a 64-bit counter, *if* you had the ability to iterate
through 32-bits every second[1] it still takes ~136 years to go all the
way through 64 bits.

I don't know about you, but that doesn't worry me. At that point it's a
straight bandwidth DoS.

What makes much more sense is mapping the first /112 or so of a subnet,
the last /112 or so, that will catch most static hosts and routers, then
if you really want just iterate through the 2^46 valid assigned
MAC's[2], much less if you make some assumptions about which OUI's are
likely to exist on a subnet[3].

Julien

1: ie, think of a 4.3ish Ghz CPU that can do "i++ and jump to 0" in a
single instruction

2: One bit lost for broadcast, one bit for local/global addresses

3: Skipping all unassigned is obvious, but there's a huge amount that
will match systems you'll never care about, 2^36 is probably not far off.




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