quietly....

Tue Feb 1 20:24:47 UTC 2011

On 2/1/2011 3:10 PM, Randy Carpenter wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
>> On 2/1/2011 2:57 PM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
>>> On 1 feb 2011, at 16:21, Jack Bates wrote:
>>>
>>>> I still know a LOT of people who have no desire to switch. They are
>>>> holding out until vendors implement the features they want. NAPTv6,
>>>> default router in DHCPv6, etc, etc.
>>> What's the point of switching to IPv6 if it repeats all the IPv4
>>> mistakes only with bigger addresses?
>> Bigger addresses. People want to engineer their networks they way they
>> want to. Let them. If their way is stupid, then they'll have the
>> stupidly engineered network they wanted. Telling them they have to do
>> it your way because their way is stupid is just going to keep them
>> from
>> changing and increases a chance of a NATernet.
>>
>> -Dave
> So, we should just have no rules or standards at all, and just let people do whatever they want. How well would that work?

We should, and do, have rules and standards for how networks communicate 
with each other.  We can, and should, publish advice on how a network 
can be built to work properly, internally and externally.  We should not 
say, you must run your internals the way we think a network should be 
run internally.  Every network operator's network is their concern, and 
making it work is their responsibility.  If they want to use DHCPv6, or 
NAT, or Packet over Avian Carrier to achieve that, let them.  If using 
them causes them problems, then they should not use them.  It really 
isn't the community's place to force people not to use tools they find 
useful because we do not like them.

-Dave