next-best-transport! down with ethernet!

Ray Soucy rps at maine.edu
Fri Dec 30 06:24:51 CST 2011


What we really need is a new method of sending data.  The fact that I
will never be able to send something from Maine to California in less
than 15 ms is not acceptable.

The speed of light is such a drag.

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 6:01 AM, Tei <oscar.vives at gmail.com> wrote:
> I am php/javascript programmer.
>
> The web used to be request/reply. With the request small (but not
> small enough), and the reply long.
> But the time for permanent connections is comming.  Links from clients
> to server that are permanent.  Or look like that in the application
> layer.
>
> On one sense, this is a optimization, no more pooling the server "do
> you have something for me?" every n seconds.  But I imagine mostly
> make things like caching and proxies pointless.
>
> At some point, users will start getting unhappy with web pages replies
> slower than 100 ms.   ATM my webpages takes longer to start Jquery
> that all the server-client interactions. Most obvious optimization is
> never reload the page, and run everything trough ajax calls.
>
> I am not dumb,  I know turning webpages into applications make
> webpages to fragile. But I am scared of javascripts. Javascript is
> just too dawmn usefull now, browsers too broken (mostly IE), and
> Javascript is like a superhero that fix all.   The web is going to
> change in a few years, from a "request" "reply" interchange network,
> to something more like a computer "bus".    I don't know how the
> "wires" will react to this.
>
>
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> On 30 December 2011 10:58, Vitkovsky, Adam <avitkovsky at emea.att.com> wrote:
>> Actually an a Cisco presentation on Nexus 7k I asked whether it's possible to transport the FCoE over let's say EoMPLS or VPLS and did not get a straight answer though that was half a year ago
>> -but it would be really cool to connect hard-drives directly over continents
>>
>>
>> adam
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tom Hill [mailto:tom at ninjabadger.net]
>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:58 PM
>> To: nanog at nanog.org
>> Subject: Re: next-best-transport! down with ethernet!
>>
>> On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 10:06 -0500, Christopher Morrow wrote:
>>> yes, let's get something with say fixed sized packets, ability to have
>>> predictable jitter and also, for fun, no more STP!
>>> Ethernet is too complex, maybe something simpler? I hear there's this
>>> new tech 'ATM'? it seems to fit the bill!
>>
>> Pfft. Everyone knows that Fibre Channel's going to replace everything...
>> The minute we get those 128Gbit/sec transmission characteristics,
>> Ethernet's gonna be as good as RS-485.
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> ℱin del ℳensaje.
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Ray Soucy

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