De-bogon not possible via arin policy.

David Conrad drc at
Thu Dec 15 04:47:36 UTC 2011

On Dec 14, 2011, at 6:46 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote
> Wait...  you had started using bogon addresses /  "squatted" space not
> allocated  and claimed the number of IP addresses your network is using that were not
> allocated by a RIR settles the need justification question?

I'm confused. When justifying 'need' in an address allocation request, what difference does it make whether an address in use was allocated by an RIR or was squatted upon?  Last I heard, renumbering out of (say) RFC 1918 space into public space was still a justification for address space.  Has this changed?

> You need to have all the documentation to show the actual justified
> technical need for the IPs you request,  such as what each specific
> address is used for.

Perhaps I'm naive, but I tend to give folks like Cameron the benefit of the doubt when it comes to dealing with IP address allocation requests and assume he provided a bit more information than what you're suggesting.  I find the suggestions by other posters that he look at IPv6 particularly amusing.

Unfortunately, regardless of the specifics of Cameron's case, the reality is that the traditional model of address allocation (i.e., "to each according to need" to quote a 19th century philosopher) is rapidly coming to a close.  I expect there will be many more situations like Cameron's in the future.


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