[fyodor at insecure.org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!]

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Wed Dec 7 07:35:06 UTC 2011

On Dec 6, 2011, at 6:20 PM, <Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu> <Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu> wrote:

> On Tue, 06 Dec 2011 18:10:14 PST, Owen DeLong said:
>> No, a Trojan is malware. Any software which operates without the
>> knowledge or consent of the user to engage in operations the user would
>> not reasonably expect is not being used for good, no matter how well
>> intentioned.
> Strictly speaking, it's "without the knowledge or consent of the *owner*". Especially
> in corporate environments, "owner" != "user".

I would argue that the superset applies in a proper definition here.

Software which operates with the knowledge and consent of the owner, but, not the
knowledge or consent of the end-user is still, IMHO, nefarious at best.


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