Verizon Business - LTE?

chris tknchris at
Tue Aug 16 15:49:38 UTC 2011

Overall, IMO the trends are just seem to be going backwards. We have more
speed but we can use it less? What kind of technology advancement is that?

I've had "unlimited" gprs, edge, 3g, and never really seen any kind of
actual cap. Sure they were slower but I didn't have to worry about getting
surprised on my next bill. If my edge from 5+ years ago could 3gb/day and
90gb a month how is 4G at 5gb an improvement of the service?


On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Christopher Morrow <
morrowc.lists at> wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Leo Bicknell <bicknell at> wrote:
> > In a message written on Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 10:29:13AM -0400,
> Christopher Morrow wrote:
> >> > PCMag did the math, you can use up the 5GB alotment in 32 minutes
> >> > with LTE.  Seems like as the speeds get faster the cap should get
> >> > larger, doesn't it?
> >>
> >> airtime is still the same price for the carrier...
> >
> > Ah, but you're making my argument!  I agree airtime * spectrum is
> > the limited quanity for the provider, and so should influence the
> > cap and pricing.
> I did say I thought the argument was bs ...
> > As far as I can tell, LTE can drive 8-10x the data in the same
> > spectrum over the same time period, as compared to HSDPA.  If you're
> > really buying "spectrum-minutes" then you should be getting more
> > data with LTE for the same price.
> so... there's also the bw to the tower, which I think most carriers
> actually lease as well (they don't own the tower, nor the link to the
> tower) so it's possible that the whole setup just costs them more now.
> anyway, they do these donkey things because they can :( people have no
> real option (except not to play the game, ala war games).

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