How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? (was: Royal Wedding...)

Rubens Kuhl rubensk at
Fri Apr 29 18:26:07 UTC 2011

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Jay Ashworth <jra at> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rubens Kuhl" <rubensk at>
>> >> Isn't the real problem with global multicast: "How do we ultimately
>> >> bill the broadcaster for all that traffic amplification that
>> >> happened
>> >> *inside* every other AS?" It seems like you'd have to do per-packet
>> >> accounting at every router, and coordinate billing/reporting
>> >> amongst
>> >> all providers that saw those packets.
>> Broadcast encrypted streams. Unicast the key distribution, allowing
>> interested parties to count, bill, block, allow, litigate, agree...
> And that's the snap answer, yes.  But the *load*, while admittedly
> lessened over unicast, falls *mostly* to the carriers, who cannot anymore
> bill for it, either to end users, providers, *or* as transit.

Why not ? One can set conditions for doing multicast replication prior
to doing it, and they might include payment for services. We don`t
have a global Multicast RP for everyone to use, each operator chooses
if, how and when multicast streams are going into their RPs.

> Will they not complain about having their equipment utilization go up
> with no recompense -- for something that is only of benefit to commercial
> customers of some other entity?

Unicast streaming has done it already, as Vladis pointed out...


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