gmail dropping mesages

Jeff Mitchell jmitchell at
Wed Apr 27 17:37:11 UTC 2011

On 04/26/2011 09:16 PM, Michael Thomas wrote:
> On 04/26/2011 05:08 PM, J.D. Falk wrote:
>> On Apr 25, 2011, at 10:12 AM, Jeff Mitchell wrote:
>>> If you trust the issued certificates(!) being used to sign the mail, you at least have a good indication that the spam is coming from the domain that it says it's coming from. This can make spam blocking much more effective because instead of simply hoping that a domain-based blocklist will block spam and not ham (due to spoofed sender addresses), you have a pretty good feeling that this will be the case.
>>> Of course this relies on various other bits and pieces to fall into place, such as properly handling such messages (Gmail's detection and handling rules aren't public AFAIK), CAs not being compromised, etc. Not to mention that the spammers can simply register another domain and buy a new cert -- but then the argument above still holds.
>> DKIM doesn't use purchased certificates.  It's all self-signed.
> Well, they aren't self-signed either; DKIM doesn't use x.509
> style certs at all. It's just RSAPublicKey DER-encoded public
> keys that are placed in the DNS.

Sorry, yes. I've had GPG and X509 on the brain lately. Thanks for the 
correction, Mike and J.D.


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