BGP next-hop

Richard A Steenbergen ras at
Thu Sep 30 23:32:13 UTC 2010

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:56:06PM +0100, Heath Jones wrote:
> Its interesting, I was heavy into cisco years back and then juniper 
> for a while. Going back to cisco now is great (always good for me to 
> keep my exposure up), but there is just so much unclear in it's CLI. 
> It wasn't until going back that I realised.
> I guess they would have to balance keeping the old timers & scripts 
> etc happy VS bringing in new features that make the output look 
> different.. Do you keep something that isn't perfect but people know 
> how to use, or change it and cause more issues than good?

Personally I still can't believe that it's the year 2010, and IOS still 
shows routes in classful notation (i.e. if it's in and is a 
/24, the /24 part isn't displayed because it's assumed to be "Class C"). 
Of course I say that every year, and so far the only thing that has 
changed is the year I say it about.

> ps. Juniper has really gone to $h!t lately. There's a website called 
> that I found - go look up what employees have to say 
> about it.. reflects exactly the support we were getting, even as as an 
> 'elite' partner..

Don't get me started, I could complain for days and still not run out of 
material, but alas it doesn't accomplish anything. Sadly, many of the 
best Juniper people I know are incredibly disaffected, and are leaving 
(or have already left) in droves. I think the way I heard it put best 
was, "I'm convinced that $somenewexecfromcisco is actually on a secret 5 
year mission to come over to Juniper, completely $%^* the company, and 
then go back to Cisco and get a big bonus for it". :)

Richard A Steenbergen <ras at>
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