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>   1. RE: IDS IPS (Ryan Bradley)
>   2. Re: Odd BGP AS Path (Warren Kumari)
>   3. Re: Odd BGP AS Path (Randy Bush)
>   4. CFP: COMSNETS 2011 (Deadline in 4 days: Sept 27, 11:59pm PDT)
>      (Ramana Kompella)
>   5. Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast? (Ernie Rubi)
>   6. RE: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast? (Paul Stewart)
>   7. Re: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast? (chaim rieger)
>   8. Re: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast? (andrew.wallace)
>   9. Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast? (Ernie Rubi)
>  10. RE: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast? (Justin Horstman)
>  11. Re: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast? (Steven Bellovin)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:58:40 -0400
> From: "Ryan Bradley" <rbradley at a1fcu.org>
> Subject: RE: IDS IPS
> To: "Joshua William Klubi" <joshua.klubi at gmail.com>,    "North American
>        Network Operators Group" <nanog at nanog.org>
> Message-ID:
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> Joshua,
>
> We use the Juniper 2xx series IDP; highly recommended. We are a small
> financial intuition with about 200 employees and 13 branch locations.
>
> I'd stay far away from SecureWorks if you're looking to manage the
> device yourself; if you're looking for an overpriced managed solution
> then they'd be okay.
>
> Ryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua William Klubi [mailto:joshua.klubi at gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 12:12 PM
> To: North American Network Operators Group
> Subject: IDS IPS
>
> Hi,
>
> I have been tasked to get the best IDS and IPS for our internal LAN and
> WAN
> in a Banking infrastructure.
> I would like ask if any one has deployed in any network with such
> technology, and also if any one can recommend
> a very good IDS and IPS for me to recommend to management
>
> Thank you.
>
> Joshua
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:48:43 -0400
> From: Warren Kumari <warren at kumari.net>
> Subject: Re: Odd BGP AS Path
> To: Florian Weimer <fw at deneb.enyo.de>
> Cc: nanog at nanog.org
> Message-ID: <303A7C18-0831-4A8E-85BA-3600F87D067D at kumari.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>
>
> On Sep 22, 2010, at 4:15 PM, Florian Weimer wrote:
>
> > * Randy Bush:
> >
> >>> Probably a silly question, but can anyone explain to me this:
> >>> 3561 3356 9031 {35821,35821,35821,35821} i
> >>
> >> please support draft-wkumari-deprecate-as-sets-00.txt
> >
> > Mere deprecation does not stop propagation of such paths.
>
> That's very true, but it *does* move us in the right direction --
> saying "Aggregation that results in AS_SETs is prohibited, off with
> your head"  isn't going to fly in the IDR WG when there are routes
> that use them...
>
> Suggesting the people do not perform aggregation that results in the
> creation of AS_SETs (and AS_CONFED_SETs), and that operators filter
> such announcements will lead to a time where they just don't exist any
> more [0] (and then can be removed from the protocol).
>
> We are also specifying that new BGP work does not need to support
> AS_.*SET ;-)
>
> W
>
> --
> "Being the Fun-Police in the global Internet is a thankless - and
> probably futile - task."
>  --  R. Whittle ("draft-whittle-sram-ip-forwarding-01.txt")
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:59:07 -0400
> From: Randy Bush <randy at psg.com>
> Subject: Re: Odd BGP AS Path
> To: Warren Kumari <warren at kumari.net>
> Cc: nanog at nanog.org
> Message-ID: <m2zkv8h5fo.wl%randy at psg.com <m2zkv8h5fo.wl%25randy at psg.com>>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> just to uncloak a bit.  when we first decided to look at deprecating
> as-sets et alia, we begged olaf maennel to analyse the use thereof.  the
> following is edited from internal email from early august.  we then
> begged one of our number, warren, to do the dirty, and he was kind
> enough to do so.  we owe him.
>
> ---
>
> using data from ripe r00
>
> years    total     real
> stable  as-sets   as-sets
>  7         4        2
>  6         6        2
>  5        20        3
>  4        22        5
>  3        64       16
>  2       214       87
>  1       875      289
>
> years stable is how many years that as-set was announced for that
> prefix.
>
> total as-sets is the number of prefixes that had any as-set.
>
> real as-sets is the number of prefixes with as-sets which were not
> singleton asns and were not private asns.
>
> olaf scanned for ten years but none were stable for more than seven.
>
> in ten years, 1205 different prefixes with as-sets were seen.  removing
> private asns and removing singletons left only 404 prefixes over the ten
> years.
>
> he did not check for covering prefixes, i.e. two prefixes with the same
> as-set where one was a sub-prefix of the other, longer, one.
>
> and i suspect the data are somewhat self-similar.  i.e. the 289 that
> were stable for the last year may have shorter term components which
> were much higher.  i.e. looking at data for a week or a day may give
> higher values.
>
> a graph which should be pretty self-explanitory may be found at
>
>
> http://archive.psg.com/fraction-and-absolute-number-of-ASsets-in-table-over-time-valids-only.pdf
>
> it is interesting that, at no time, i.e. in no single rib dump, were
> there more than 23 prefixes with as-sets.  while this is suspicious, it
> seems to be true.
>
> randy
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:10:57 -0400
> From: Ramana Kompella <kompella at cs.purdue.edu>
> Subject: CFP: COMSNETS 2011 (Deadline in 4 days: Sept 27, 11:59pm PDT)
>
> To: nanog at nanog.org
> Message-ID: <20100923161057.GA7221 at tirupati>
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>
> *** APOLOGIES IF YOUR RECEIVED MULTIPLE COPIES OF THE CFP ***
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>
>                        COMSNETS 2011
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:39:15 -0400
> From: Ernie Rubi <ernesto at cs.fiu.edu>
> Subject: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast?
> To: nanog at nanog.org
> Message-ID: <E5E97806-A338-4B41-8421-39B2D3EC34BD at cs.fiu.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=us-ascii
>
> Anyone else having trouble? We're colo'ed at the NOTA in Miami and directly
> peer with them - even though our session hasn't gone down we still can't
> reach them.
>
> Ernesto M. Rubi
> Sr. Network Engineer
> AMPATH/CIARA
> Florida International Univ, Miami
> Reply-to: ernesto at cs.fiu.edu
> Cell: 786-282-6783
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:40:59 -0400
> From: "Paul Stewart" <pstewart at nexicomgroup.net>
> Subject: RE: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast?
> To: "Ernie Rubi" <ernesto at cs.fiu.edu>,  <nanog at nanog.org>
> Message-ID:
>        <C0A98BB6DAFAAB46A78BBA2C51B98F3E01B6F80B at nexus.nexicomgroup.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
> Over on the outages list there is a lot of discussion... I believe
> everyone is effected - we are peered with them in several locations and
> cannot reach them.
>
> Paul
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ernie Rubi [mailto:ernesto at cs.fiu.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 3:39 PM
> To: nanog at nanog.org
> Subject: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast?
>
> Anyone else having trouble? We're colo'ed at the NOTA in Miami and
> directly peer with them - even though our session hasn't gone down we
> still can't reach them.
>
> Ernesto M. Rubi
> Sr. Network Engineer
> AMPATH/CIARA
> Florida International Univ, Miami
> Reply-to: ernesto at cs.fiu.edu
> Cell: 786-282-6783
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:41:04 +0000
> From: "chaim rieger" <chaim.rieger at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast?
> To: "Ernie Rubi" <ernesto at cs.fiu.edu>,nanog at nanog.org
> Message-ID:
>
>  <471277240-1285270865-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1324398093- at bda899.bisx.prod.on.blackberry
> >
>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> Yes tis down. Watch productivity go up
> ------Original Message------
> From: Ernie Rubi
> To: nanog at nanog.org
> Subject: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast?
> Sent: Sep 23, 2010 12:39
>
> Anyone else having trouble? We're colo'ed at the NOTA in Miami and directly
> peer with them - even though our session hasn't gone down we still can't
> reach them.
>
> Ernesto M. Rubi
> Sr. Network Engineer
> AMPATH/CIARA
> Florida International Univ, Miami
> Reply-to: ernesto at cs.fiu.edu
> Cell: 786-282-6783
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:41:45 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "andrew.wallace" <andrew.wallace at rocketmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast?
> To: Ernie Rubi <ernesto at cs.fiu.edu>
> Cc: nanog at nanog.org
> Message-ID: <581294.59169.qm at web59605.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Over the last 30 minutes or more (UK)
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Ernie Rubi <ernesto at cs.fiu.edu>
> To: nanog at nanog.org
> Sent: Thu, 23 September, 2010 20:39:15
> Subject: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast?
>
> Anyone else having trouble? We're colo'ed at the NOTA in Miami and directly
> peer
> with them - even though our session hasn't gone down we still can't reach
> them.
>
> Ernesto M. Rubi
> Sr. Network Engineer
> AMPATH/CIARA
> Florida International Univ, Miami
> Reply-to: ernesto at cs.fiu.edu
> Cell: 786-282-6783
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:39:15 -0400
> From: Ernie Rubi <ernesto at cs.fiu.edu>
> Subject: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast?
> To: nanog at nanog.org
> Message-ID: <E5E97806-A338-4B41-8421-39B2D3EC34BD at cs.fiu.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=us-ascii
>
> Anyone else having trouble? We're colo'ed at the NOTA in Miami and directly
> peer with them - even though our session hasn't gone down we still can't
> reach them.
>
> Ernesto M. Rubi
> Sr. Network Engineer
> AMPATH/CIARA
> Florida International Univ, Miami
> Reply-to: ernesto at cs.fiu.edu
> Cell: 786-282-6783
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:43:44 -0700
> From: Justin Horstman <justin.horstman at gorillanation.com>
> Subject: RE: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast?
> To: 'Ernie Rubi' <ernesto at cs.fiu.edu>, "nanog at nanog.org"
>        <nanog at nanog.org>
> Message-ID:
>
>  <8C164D3BAF7C7F41B9B286385037B1310D3646D683 at lax-exch-fe-01.gorillanation.local
> >
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Via http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/facebook.com
>
> It's not just you! http://facebook.com looks down from here.
>
> Also down from LA, qwest has been having issues today as well, not sure if
> its related.
>
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ernie Rubi [mailto:ernesto at cs.fiu.edu]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 12:39 PM
> > To: nanog at nanog.org
> > Subject: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast?
> >
> > Anyone else having trouble? We're colo'ed at the NOTA in Miami and
> > directly peer with them - even though our session hasn't gone down we
> > still can't reach them.
> >
> > Ernesto M. Rubi
> > Sr. Network Engineer
> > AMPATH/CIARA
> > Florida International Univ, Miami
> > Reply-to: ernesto at cs.fiu.edu
> > Cell: 786-282-6783
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:46:33 -0400
> From: Steven Bellovin <smb at cs.columbia.edu>
> Subject: Re: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast?
> To: Paul Stewart <pstewart at nexicomgroup.net>
> Cc: nanog at nanog.org
> Message-ID: <9DFEEE61-5562-4157-841A-5C1B9EEA55EF at cs.columbia.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> On Sep 23, 2010, at 3:40 59PM, Paul Stewart wrote:
>
> > Over on the outages list there is a lot of discussion... I believe
> > everyone is effected - we are peered with them in several locations and
> > cannot reach them.
> >
>
> http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2010/09/22/facebook-goes-down-for-some-users/
> >
>
>
>                --Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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