Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?

Fri Sep 17 23:34:09 UTC 2010

I have the same problem getting decent fiber out here. They keep
wanting to do a loop clear back to the other side of the state. I will
jsut keep building out my towers to towns where I know I can co-lo or
get QMOE at least.

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Leo Bicknell <bicknell at ufp.org> wrote:
> In a message written on Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 04:44:04PM +0000, Michael Sokolov wrote:
>> Does that mean no CLECs like Covad or DSL.net who colocate in the AT&T
>> CO, rent unbundled dry copper pairs and take it up from there themselves?
>
> I found someone off list with access to Megapath's "Partner Portal"
> where they can get the real scoop, and did that for my specific
> location.
>
> Short form:
>  They can resell AT&T's lower speed ADSL (but not their top speeds)
>  at a markup.
>
>  They can resell Comcast's cable modem service at a markup.
>
>  They can offer IDSL (ISDN Speeds) or SDSL from the actual CO,
>  which they claim is 19k feet away, my google maps says 23k feet
>  away.  The estimate is I could get 768k symmetric at that distance,
>  which would mean 1/10th the bandwidth I have now at approximately
>  5 times the cost I have now.
>
> So I'm sure if you're a government bean counter or AT&T lobbyest
> there is "competition" out of my CO, and I have options.   As a
> consumer looking at the practical side of it I see no options, I
> have a Telco or Cable company, with basically the same offerings
> at the same speed at the same prices.
>
> YMMV, likely a lot with where you live.
>
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