Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions

Ben Butler ben.butler at c2internet.net
Mon Nov 29 20:12:14 CST 2010


And what happens when the content providers have multicast to the BGP edge and the access provider has to carry it from there on in their network.

This is solely about money and the brokenness of the current ISP / access / carrier / content provider commercial model.  This has been coming for years once access speed (long since) got upto a sufficient speed to sustain 1 to 2 Mbit and they sorted out their copyright issues on the content.

Now all the access providers who spoke big in marketing and delivered little in service are being exposed and trying to fudge the issue.  This has been coming for at least five years with video, and the next one is SIP with call revenues.

Show me the money!

-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Fischer [mailto:sfischer1967 at gmail.com] 
Sent: 30 November 2010 02:03
To: Marshall Eubanks
Cc: NANOG list
Subject: Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions

Trying to follow this - so, if I have followed it correctly, L3 hosts
high-bandwitdh services (namely NetFlix) to which an abundance of Comcast
users subscribe?  And Comcast is crying foul, and claiming a portion of L3's
revenue is rightfully theirs, for being "last mile" to a significant portion
of the CDN/NetFlix customer base?  Does L3 even service a home user market,
in the same vein as Comcast or Verizon?

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Marshall Eubanks <tme at americafree.tv>wrote:

>
> On Nov 29, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Phil Bedard wrote:
>
> > Is L3 hosting content for Netflix?
>
> You bet.
>
>
> http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2010/11/11/level-3-signs-deal-to-be-a-primary-netflix-cdn-shares-rally/
>
> * NOVEMBER 11, 2010, 9:13 AM ET
>
> Level 3 Signs Deal To Be A Primary Netflix CDN; Shares Rally
>
> Regards
> Marshall
>
> >  Netflix has become a large source of
> > traffic going to end users.  L3 likely could have held out on this one if
> > the content they were hosting is valuable enough to Comcast's customers,
> > but maybe what Comcast was asking for wasn't much in the grand scheme of
> > things.
> >
> > Obviously someone has to pay for the access infrastructure and Comcast
> > would much rather get the content provider to pay for it versus passing
> it
> > along to their customers.  I think they probably just took a stab and L3
> > complied.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> >
> >
> > On 11/29/10 5:28 PM, "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick at ianai.net> wrote:
> >
> >> <
> http://www.marketwatch.com/story/level-3-communications-issues-statement-
> >> concerning-comcasts-actions-2010-11-29?reflink=MW_news_stmp>
> >>
> >> I understand that politics is off-topic, but this policy affects
> >> operational aspects of the 'Net.
> >>
> >> Just to be clear, L3 is saying content providers should not have to pay
> >> to deliver content to broadband providers who have their own product
> >> which has content as well.  I am certain all the content providers on
> >> this list are happy to hear L3's change of heart and will be applying
> for
> >> settlement free peering tomorrow.  (L3 wouldn't want other providers to
> >> claim the Vyvx or CDN or other content services provided by L3 are
> >> competing and L3 is putting up a "toll booth" on the Internet, would
> >> they?)
> >>
> >> --
> >> TTFN,
> >> patrick
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>


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