Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

Richard Hartmann richih.mailinglist at
Mon Nov 22 05:56:57 CST 2010

Please don't group several emails into one. It breaks threads. And
while I could not find anything about this in the NANOG FAQ, it's
common netiquette not to do so.

On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 23:50, William Herrin <bill at> wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Joel Jaeggli <joelja at> wrote:

> Looks like an ass-u-me. If you think the use if IPv4 addresses in URLs
> is infrequent, it's mostly "u." Get out in the field some time.

Ad hominem usually does not do much to maintain or improve the quality
of a discussion.

> That server op is the kind of guy we're asking to understand that
> there's nothing special about the two bytes between the colons in the
> IPv6 address. He's gonna be trouble.

As you described yourself, he is gonna be trouble anyway. People end
up working around him anyway, so why bother to cater to his needs?
Especially as the fixed colons are here to stay and a good thing,

> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 1:42 PM,  <Valdis.Kletnieks at> wrote:

> Whatever you want to do. That's the point of optional/movable separators.

Principle of least surprise.

> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at> wrote:

> That would be a more compelling argument if it accurately described
> phone number notation. It doesn't. "+44 121 410 5228," for example, is
> the phone number for parking services at Heathrow airport, exactly as
> described on's "contact us" page. No
> dashes at all, and not 10 digits.

The UK is not part of the USA nor of Canada.

> IPv6 is one of very few addressing schemes in which the separators
> intentionally have no greater meaning within the protocol or its use.

As has been pointed out several times before, helping humans reduce
errors is a highly desirable goal. _And_ the discussion is moot
anyway. I think I am at a point where I will simply ignore any new
occurrences of this theme.


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